dry-spell....no big fights until June 7th...

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  1. Double L

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    here we go. no big fights happening until June 7th. our run was nice. now it's time to go nearly a month without a big fight.

    are there any good fights happening on ESPN2 or Shobox that we can look forward to? in the mean-time?
     
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    Factor in non-worthy affairs like Floyd-DLH and JT-Spinks and the dry spell is even longer.
     
  3. Double L

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    i didn't think ODH/PBF was so bad, but point well taken. JT/Spinks was awful, but Pavliik/Miranda saved the evening.

    and it's hard to imagine Cotto/Judah will be too competitive, although i'm hoping so. hopefully the under-card will be good.
     
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    A one-month "dry spell". Is that abig deal?
     
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    In about 4 yrs it'll be a rest of our lives dry spell.
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    For any sport? Hell yeah.

    For a sport in DESPERATE need of momentum? A one-DAY dry spell is critical.
     
  7. Double L

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    no. it's not a big deal. but it's note-worthy given the long string of fights we've had. some of us enjoy boxing in general and miss it when it's not on. i can appreciate though how a fan-boy like you would be immune to such conditions, since you only care about 3-4 fights a year anyways.
     
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    Not for a sport like boxing.
     
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    You're not wrong.

    I'm not a fanboy...but truthfully, I don't care for all of the insignificant fights..personally.

    I'm happy with 5 or 6 NAME fights in a year.
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    In suffering through Taylor-Spinks this weekend, I thought about the claim (not just by you, but it's relevant for this topic) that undercards are irrelevant for the most part. Just trying to envision what this weekend would've been like without Pavlik-Miranda on the card.

    I ask that for two reasons: one, anyone who did go to the fight that wasn't from Little Rock, went in anticipation of the co-feature, and two - neither of the two fighters are with DiBella, who was the promoter of the show.

    This weekend was a great example of why it IS important to offer a compelling undercard. I know the response will be that Oscar and Floyd provided 2.15 million reasons to the contrary. I'll still counter that a Pavlik-Miranda co-feature to that event makes it a truly memorable one that makes people want to come back, and also granting Pavlik the star power he deserves in the process, Instead, he becomes the proverbial tree in the empty forest that was this weekend, and meanwhile, very few are talking about what happened two weeks ago.
     
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    exactly. which is consistent with all of the evidence we have here that you're not a real boxing fan. and it shows through in your commentary.
     
  12. slystaff

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    That's not fair. If I wasn't a true boxing fan, I wouldn't be on here so many hours chatting boxing with you motherf****s! :lol:

    I love the sport, I just don't have to watch wednesday night fights and all the unknown bums like some do.
     
  13. Double L

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    ok. but you must accept that as a result, your knowledge of the game will deteriorate slowly, rendering you less and less worthy of our interaction. so while you may be happy to watch only a few fights a year, and ignore the sport for the most part, understand that this attitude comes with consequences. and the worst part is, when all is said and done, you'll be one of those people who don't know what they don't know, a category that is far worse than those who are fully aware of their ignorance.
     
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    Nope. :doh: Fucked up too because Saturday was supposed to be Katsidis-Guzman and Larios-Linares. This Wednesday Night Fights card is horrible, and Friday Night Fights shouldn't be too much better where the Peterson brothers both fight against opponents TBA. ESPN has decent cards in June though (Ngoudjo-Bailey, Pascal-Williams / Bute-Bika). Hell, as a matter of fact, June in general is loaded. As of now..a dry spell indeed, but the summer will make up for it.
     
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    You're referring to:

    "He that knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool, shun him"

    I don't fall into that category. When i don't know anything about a fighter i say so. I only comment and give analysis on guys that I know.

    Hence why you never see me giving analysis on threads about fighters below 122lbs.

    btw...."rendering you less and less worthy of our interaction" is HILARIOUS!! :laughing:

    The question is not whether I'm worthy of the interaction of this forum, but whether the forum is worthy of my intelligent/analytical genius input. As your signature will testify...:cool:
     
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    We'll have to settle for Chuck vs Rampage to entertain us this weekend.
     
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    oh yeah !!! forgot about that. gotta check that out.
     
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    I'm watching it for sure. Should be good.
     
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    I could spin that and say boxing in one of the only sports with no off-season. A few weeks is really no big deal when you compare it to the months with no NFL, NBA or MLB.
     
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    well, either way, the less fights you watch, the less you know. just keep that in mind.

    all fighters are linked by way of having faced each other, so the less fighters you bother to watch, the less basis you will have to make any argument whatever.

    unfortunately, this will become increasingly obvious as time goes on and you find yourself grasping at straws for a factual underpinning you simply won't have.

    good luck to you, fair-weather fan! :lol:
     
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    Right now is one of the best spring-summers weve had in years.

    DLH-Mayweather, Taylor-Spinks, Hopkins-Wright, Judah-Cotto.. the list goes on...
     
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    Cotto-Judah should be HBO. Why does every damn decent fight have to be on PPV?

    PPV is killing boxing.

    TFK
     
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    i agree. i was actually surprised when Hatton/Castillo was announced for regular HBO.
     
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    Taylor-Spinks/Pavlik-Miranda was on regular HBO, and people in Memphis didn't even seem too aware of it.

    Hatton-Castillo is on regular HBO. Margarito-Williams will be on regular HBO. Marquez-Vazquez II will be on Showtime. Mormeck-Bell II was on MSG.

    Put any other sport in boxing's shoes and with the same budget, and they'd be worse off. Boxing outdraws NHL on ESPN/ESPN2, and with only a fraction of the budget.. The NFL has already conceded to the fact that Monday Night Football, while still an active series, is dead as a tradition - hence, the move to cable (ESPN).

    Lack of interest is killing boxing. You can blame it on whatever you want. People just don't give a shit about the sport anymore.
     
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    Abraham vs. Demers, Huck vs. Tokarev, Wlod vs. Cunningham, and Povetkin on Saturday. On Friday three successful German Olympians and two competitive bouts involving two P4P female fighters against very good opponents, among them the swedish girl, that gave Laila Ali hell in Berlin before running out of gas in a fight she took on three day notice. And the girls are all pretty good looking. :popcorn:
     
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    Damn good post.
     
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    This is far more true in mma, yes?
     
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    Everything mma-related is PPV. Heck, Gary Shaw's premiere show Elite Fighting debuted on Showtime. Their 2nd show is already on ppv and with not a fighter worth a sh*t carrying the card. MMA will go the route of boxing. The UFC's 15-16 ppvs a year doesn't help. Not only is it product overkill but $40 per ppv doesn't help longevity. I'd like to see where combat sports in general are in 5 years time.
     
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    For the most part, nobody gave a sh*t about the sport for years. But they gave a sh*t about Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya, Julio Cesar Chavez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Manny Pacquaio and many other figthers. That's the one thing about this sport. People only care to watch THEIR fighters.
    I think that's one way to sum it up, nobody gives a sh*t about BOXING but they give a sh*t about BOXERS.:lol:
     
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    Just steal it and stop complaining.
     

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