Cotto vs. Judah: strengths, weaknesses, opportunities

When this fight was first announced, it seemed like a no-brainer. And in many ways it still is. Afterall, Judah couldn't handle the pressure and power of Baldomir, how's he going to do it against Cotto, who is quicker than Carlos, hits harder, and is every bit as aggressive and determined?

So for those picking Judah, or even those thinking he has a chance, I think you have some explaining to do. ::

Shouldn't Cotto get some heat for taking this match-up? Isn't Judah just a left-over at this point? Especially at 147 where he's only had one meaningful win.

I would've liked to see Cotto/Clottey, or Cotto/Cintron. But I guess that's my opinion because the case could be made that Judah is better than both those guys, although I'd disagree.

Why is Judah a perceived threat? What has he done ever to suggest he can beat Cotto?

I think Cotto will have some early difficulty dealing with Judah's speed, but once he gets used to it, he will take the necessary risks to get inside and basically beat the fight out of Judah, the same way Baldomir and PBF did, and to a lesser extent Pineda.

 

Are you picking Mayweather to shut out Cotto by that sentence?

 

Well, Judah had 0 meaningful wins at 140, so Cotto should get some credit for taking on Judah.

 

I realize I mention PBF in the thread, but can we leave him out of it?

 

Sure, if you insist, I corrected my initial post.
But back to the point......Defeating Spinks at 147 is the biggest achievement of Judah's career, such as it is. Therefore, Cotto should get all credit in the world for beating Judah at 147, the division where Judah achieved his biggest success.

 

Agreed that Cotto should win. Disagree with your sentiment that Judah has little to no chance. Judah hits HARD and is very fast, and is a southpaw. Cotto has been shaken up before (BADLY by Corely).

 

Agreed!

 

I'm actually somewhat disappointed in Cotto. Fighting Judah after defeating Urkal? What kind of crap is that? Fighting 2 bums like that in a row is unacceptable! What is he going to do next? Beat up on Sharmba Mitchell? What self-respecting fighter would take that route??

 

Who would you have rather seen him fight this June? Margarito? No, he turned the fight down to fight Williams. Clottey? No, he just fought in April. Cintron? Nope. Promoter issues. Mosley? Nah, promoter beef. Who does that leave?

 

thats it.

He was hurt against Corley...and Judah does every Corley can do..just alot better....Cotto should still brutalize him.

 

He got caught with a strange shot. Other than that, he didn't have too much trouble with Corley. He shouldn't have too much trouble with Judah as well.

 

Unless Judah lands a right hook to the temple of Cotto..if it happen Cotto should survive and still KOJUDAHTFO..

 

Anyone wanna meet me in Bets and Wagers? I've got $25 on Judah.

I foresee Cotto catching a huge surprise when he digs in to the body against the powerful southpaw in Judah. Judah has had many an opportunity to learn the ills of his ways, and this fight will prove that the boy is serious about his craft. I do believe he's been distracted and downright dumb in fights, but he knows this is do or die for him. Say what you want about Judah, but he is still Cotto's biggest fight ever.

For those crediting Cotto with his vics over ???, remember this is the guy that went 12 with Malignaggi. One sided it was, but Paulie was still standing. Judah is no Paulie.

 

I WILL.....:cheer:

 

Its good!! See you there for confirmation.

 

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what is the password...? do you know..

 

I just pm'ed you.

 

AND I got the pm..i nknew that was the password..but i stil can't log into that forum...or the smacktalk forum....and i know the password for both..

 

but it's ON!!!

 

I'm still not convinced this is anything but a one-sided beat down. Sure, Judah will handle himself early on and land some eye-catching counters, like he always does. But he's not gonna knock Cotto out, even if he hurts him.

Thing is, the only way he's gonna hurt Cotto is by trading with him. And there's virtually no way Judah will be able to trade with Cotto without getting hurt himself.

So there you have it. Judah has a chance to make it interesting. Even a chance to hurt Cotto. What he has NO chance of doing is stopping Cotto or beating him by decision - he's shown more than three times that he can't stay in the game in the long haul.

And yet, Cotto has proven that even if he's hurt, he will not be stopped and more importantly he will not be discouraged.

To me, this is kind of a bitch move by Cotto who hasn't faced a top tier opponent his whole career. To me, this is an easy way out, the same way it was for PBF - avoid the really dangerous guys at 147: Margarito, Cintron, Williams and Clottey, and instead, take on a guy who is a proven choke.

 

The only real question here is whether Judah is going to do a tap dance when the glass in his jaw shatters. It's going to sound like an errant baseball through some old woman's window.

 

:bears: :bears:

 

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exactly. Cotto is exactly the type of fighter Judah will never beat. Never.

Judah could "possibly" beat a guy like PBF. he did beat a guy like Spinks. and he beat a guy like Corley and Witter.

but a rugged guy like Cotto? with power, talent, aggression and determination? never.

 

I'm picking Judah because Double L is picking Cotto, and he's always wrong.

 

at least i record my picks. and more often than not, they're right. but it suits your know-it-all fragile psyche more to pretend they're not.

who were your picks on saturday by the way? didn't see em listed.

 

I picked Taylor. I didn't give a shit about the other fights.

You are always wrong, even on the easiest of picks, like Mayweather-Baldomir. What the fuck were you thinking?!?!?!?

 

awe, fk you. :: i explained myself thoroughly concerning that pick, both before the fight, and after. you've already stolen too much of my time discussing it.

"I didn't give a shit about the other fights."

translation: "I didn't make a pick for fear of being wrong. This way, I can remain up on my high horse and pretend I never ever make a wrong pick."

 

I simply am not into obsessively picking fights. If I don't care about a fight, and I'm not betting on it, what's the point?

 

:nono: Agreed with Double L, Baldomir does everything bad, so the one required attribute you need to beat Judah's arse is a little bit of resilience early, just a little bit, and most are qualified including a vast array of journeyman. Cotto has never been knocked out, Baldomir has, so we can't even assume Carlos has the better trait in remaining upright. Cotto, like most top fighters, is in everyway superior to Baldomir, like someone said, better skills, better power, better offense, better defense, better footwork....just everything....simply everything.. Zab's gettin' fucked, mental deficiencies DONT GO AWAY, they didn't go away with Golota, and they didn't go away with Tyson, just because people can't see Zab's psychological disconnection like as if it was a glass chin (which he has anyway) people don't consider it, it doesn't register,..and when he's disgraced himself once again, he'll STILL be overrated, he can be whored out to the titlists and get away with it because people seem to go "ooooooooooooooooooo" at the sight of handspeed,.. that's also why so many gave Clottey too much credit in the Margarito fight, he'd land a quick explosive 3 punch combo and that apparently negated the 15 bodyshots and 10 headshots Margarito landed consecutively proceeding it,..."oooooooooooooo!" :nono: those of you picking the proven loser should wake up to yourselves, this fight is a no brainer. :nono: and Maj, that Spaniard's about to take your money,..:nono:

 

I can't believe everyone is calling Judah a bum:dunno: Damn everyone is a bum these days. Just to refresh some memories here Judah had Mayweather beat for the first 5 rounds in my book. He scored a clean knockdown and was out landing Mayweather. I challenge anyone who dosent think Judah didnt score a clean knockdown. This is going to be a very dangerous fight the first half of the fight. You guys are already making Cotto's win look irrelevant if he does win.:nono: I think this fight will prove alot, Judah is the best opponent thus far.