Cotto vs. Judah: strengths, weaknesses, opportunities

well thats the whole point...for some Castillo is a bum cause he had some early career defeats..yet Margarito has had 3-4 defeats and hasn't accomplish half of what JLC has, but he is a proven warrior king tough and determine fighter cause he beat Kermit...while Castillo is a skilless bum.

 

I agree and Castillo beat Mayweather in the first fight, but yet he is a bum?:dunno:



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Mayweather, Casamayor, Lazcano, Corrales, maybe soon Hatton...yet he is a bum. Margarito Kermit, Clottey and maybe another Cintronish in WILLIAMS in a few weeks.....maybe...

 

Judah is always ahead after 5 rounds. And after 12, if he makes it that far, he always loses.

Nobody is saying Judah is a bum. But facts are facts. The guy hasn't beaten anyone.

Maybe if this were a stay-busy fight on regular HBO it wouldn't be so bad. But billed as some sort of major challenge for Cotto? It's B.S.

 

Maxx already told you why this fight is happening.

 

Margorito is a monster because Floyd didn't fight him. If Floyd did fight him you know he would be nothing ::

 

why is it again?

 

Go to page 1 of this thread ::

 

there you go LL.

 

He could've rematched Abdullaev. I hear Abdula has grown a pair since their last fight.

 

I think Judah has a great chance to win this fight. Like all fighters, speed bothers Cotto. And the Cotto that I have seen in recent fights seems to be settling into a steady, predictable rhythm in the ring-- not good when you are facing someone who outclasses you in the speed department.

At this point in his career, I think Judah is in touch enough with his limitations to avoid getting into a pissing contest with Cotto.

We have seen him string together impressive rounds against Mayweather so he can certainly hang in there with Cotto.

When Cotto throws his right hand to the body, he leaves it low and offers a fantastic counter chance for Zab. This is the punch I see Judah hurting Cotto with.

And if he does hurt Cotto, Zab is a FAR superior finisher to either Corley or Torres. Doubtful Miguel gets 2 minutes to run in place while no one hits him, like he did against Chop Chop.

 

Torres and Corley both landed many sick shots on Cotto once he was hurt. To the body, to the chin, one after the other. They just couldn't get him out of there. It wasn't because they suck at finishing. It's because Cotto is a fucking truck!

I agree with you that Cotto's predictability makes him less effective than say, Baldomir was, who if nothing else was unpredictable. But thing is, Cotto hits way harder than him and way harder than PBF. No way does Judah avoid the incoming for 12 rounds. No way does Judah put Cotto away. No way does Judah sustain a lead for 12 rounds. It all adds up to a definite win for Cotto.

 

Sorry dude, but in the Corley fight in particular it was because Corley SUCKED at finishing. He basically let the man off the hook. He was just watching Cotto and throwing one punch at a time at the man's body...HIS BODY????

Judah would have gone crazy like an enraged Pitbull and thrown every punch PLUS the kitchen sink at Cotto's exposed noggin!

 

He might get his chance in June 9...he goes nuts and tries for the KO, and he ends up in the canvas KOTFO...

 

Judah has about a 10% chance. Let's not bullshit. This is hardly a marquee Matchup, but we are talking about Miguel Cotto, the most protected fighter outside of Germany. Honestly, this should be ab easy, easy, easy, kayo win for him. If he doesn't dominate Judah like other fighters have, he is a stinking fraud. I write this for Illuminati.


I am not giving credit to Cotto for taking this BULLSHIT fight BEFORE the fight.

If he wins, like he should, Cotto deserves no credit for beating a guy who hasn't won in 2 years.

If he loses, :: :: . He won't this isn't even a 60/40 type of fight. Judah has little chance to win as he is a proven and repeated flop (literally) at the big or not so big level. He just isn't very good.

 

Ofcouse you won't give Cotto credit...never ever...even if he beats Margarita...you will say..ohh Margarito didn't look that good against Williams he might be a bit past his prime..or some other excuse not to give Cotto credit.....but then again you don't give any fighter credit unless it's Winky Wright...and everyone else is a bum...

 

I already told you, I will give Joto credit if he beats Margarito.

 

Unless he looks questionable against Williams....you know the PROVEN welterweight Paul Williams...biggest win against an old Sharmba Mitchell. :cheer:

 

Margarito is not very good, but he is a legit Welterweight unlike Judah who got an undeserved 2nd shot at Stinks after he was drubbed in the first fight. Judah is a little umpa lumpa. He is the more accomplished fighter, but Margarito isn't a proven bust like Judah is. He has some skill, but he is a small welter. Margarito is a legit Welter. He'd fuck up Judah easily as well.

 

Fagarito sucks.

I honestly think Fagarito is one of the worst chin-first fighters to be ever overrated by clueless shitheads like those on this board. I'd even argue he's not a legit welter. He cuts 50 pounds before every fight with daily enemas and drinking water and eating bread 12 days before the bout.

 

That is what most 175 pound men do at Welter. Honestly, legit Welter means illegitimate welter really. Judah and Mayweather could probably just eat 3 square and train and be below 147. They are exceptions. Honestly, if you made a rule about percentage of weight lost. Just about every champion would move up 2 or 3 divisions with few exceptions. Of the top of my head, Judah, PBF and Pacman.

 

That's true. I'm just kind of annoyed people hold Fagarito in such high regard. I don't think those people have even seen him fight.

 

I think he sucks but he is and would be difficult for most welters to beat. He is big strong and relentless and he is akward even worse than Baldomir. I think he'd smack Judah around and would get the decision over Stinks because he'd run like the wind. He is terrible in everyway but he has the size and the fury to make up for alot of it. I don't think anyone holds him in high regard. He isn't a P4P type of fighter but at 147 he is going to be a tough fight for anyone.

 

Not 'all' fighters,.. Tszyu for one, was the opposite,...he LOOOOOOOOVED fighting against speed,..he would use his right hand like a frog's tongue. It was the slow, slugging swarmers he'd struggle against.

 

cause he QUIT against slugging swarmer Hatton he struggle against them..?

Yeah Vince Phillips was alos a slugging swarmer..with SHIT SPEED..:flip:

 

I'm going to have to go and get those old posts of yours,..screaming, and screaming for Margarito to fight his mandatory while the prospect of a Cotto fight was in the works. :crafty: You've got to be more careful if your going to contradict yourself all the time my son,...

:nono: and by the way to the rest of you haters,..nobody says that Margarito has brilliant technical skills, but he does have a unique offensive ability to retain power in shots from unconventional angles that can penetrate even the best defences, he has shoulder sockets of iron, and 'bum welterweights' don't beat Cintron or Clottey, those two are near the top of the division, Top 5. If everyone fought with the will and heart of Margarito, the sport would be in great shape, he's one of boxing's saviours and should be appreciated, especially in an age out of sheer desperation people are clinging to Fraud Mayweather and celebrating him through trauma induced delusions. :nono:

 

The reason why Sharmba Mitchell gave "Tszyu all he could handle" in the first fight was because Mitchell employed a similar tactic Hatton did, grab clutch, close the gap, Mitchell threw himself into the correct area accidentally, just out of fear of his power.

 

and and don't forget that Mitchell had a fucked up leg in the first fight....opcorn:

 

Not shitting on Margarito vs. Williams..should be a good fight..while it last. Margarito doesn't want none of Miguel Cotto.....he could've fougth Williams in March..then Cotto in June..he decided not to..cause ARUM wasn't being FAIR with him.......Margarito a guy that has bitch and bitch about nobody wants to fight me...i'm broke as hell i need money please fight me Oscar..but has the audacity to refuse 1.5-6 million to fight MIGUEL COTTO....just cause it was there for June doesn't mean it will be there for September or October...:nono: