UFC fights don't have the same rewatchable value as boxing does.

Well, no. A topic like this has no 'truth', only an individual's version of the truth. I do agree that you're generally an honest bottle of grog and that keeps you held reasonably high in my estimations, but at the end of the day...even the most honest of opinions, is still an opinion.

 

True enough. It's not something than can be measured. However i have brought up the some facts about MMA fans and Boxing fans in terms of fights they "own" and watch. You seem to want to play devil's advocate in this one moreso than offering your own opinion, because it will be in agreement with the topic.

 

Dude, no one cares about your estimations.

 

Ok, you've baited me out. I have an extensive MMA collection and I would venture to say most true MMA do as well. I've got Abdu Dabi tapes, old backyard shooto crap, RINGS tourneys from years ago, every Pride..on VHS :: ...a tonne of doco's, EVERY filmed K-1 tourney up to 2005, some old american style kickboxing events, local fight cards and so on.

I also have about 10,000 boxing fights laying about my house and my folks house. I'm a fight fan. Thats what they do.

 

Then stop replying to me, Venus. 86.6 proof and I hold a nice, firm, tight, co-existence @ Fightbeat. My estimation is everything to him. For you? Thats your right to downplay the importance of my estimation. Don't pretend you speak for every cretin on this site though. Your head isn't so large.

 

I don't doubt that you do. Point is that boxing still has more rewatchability and you know it.

Just fucking admit it! :warning:

 

I won't conceed that. I will however conceed that boxing has a better chance of a fight occuring that has high re-watchability, simply because of the sheer weight of numbers in play. There's more boxing going on. Simple as that.

As for what is more re-watchable? Again, that is purely subjective. Its like asking someone if they would rather re-watch Saw or The Godfather. They're completely different genre's, sold in the same shop.

 

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:nono: that hasn't been done in a year....

 

:nono: liar!

 

2 years then.....

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The MMA fight i can watch over and over is Lidell-White. Fast paced 1 round war.

I can't think of any other MMA fights ive watched again intentionally.

 

I can not believe any BOXING fan would not like the Mayweather-DLH fight.. IMO it was better than I thought it would be.

people act like they should have been slugging!

Floyd does not fight like that..

I dont get when people only want to see unskilled guys swinging away with no defense.. Floyd and DLH was a very good fight!

 

You all can argue this shit all day. The fact of the matter is rewatchability is a matter of opinion.

Think what you want about "Wrestling matches" and "boring ground and pound" but there is as much skill involved in MMA as there is in boxing. If you know what you're seeing, you can appreciate it. If you're not a fan, that is your opinion, it's not fact.

 

This post makes a lot of sense. Who hacked into *Z*'s account? :tease:

 

Shhh, don't tell him. ::

 

And despite all this accumulated knowledge from having watched years and years and years of MMA fights, you believed Tim Sylvia was an elite striker! Poor guy!

 

you are correct on this sly. mma will never generate the suspense & drama that a truly great boxing fight can. in boxing (i.e chico/castillo) you can have a fighter who's been dropped and severely hurt, get up, beat the count and courageously come back. in mma, once a guy is hurt severely the fight is over...

 

I will never understand the need for a fan to bash another sport in an effort to boost their sport up. Both are unique individuals. I love both. Boxing will always be my first love, but I still enjoy MMA as well. Open your eyes. You may just see something you like.opcorn:

 

Boxing is definitely more rewatchable. Not just the classic fights that everybody knows about and remembers. Holyfield-Dokes wasn't a war, but I could that fight over and over. With boxing, even if the fight isn't action-packed, you can study the technique of the fighters. With MMA, you have guys trying to do stuff that they're not even good at. When you have two wrestlers fight, when they're not of the floor dry-humping, they're gonna be on their feet displaying laughable boxing technique. I'm probably more technically sound as a boxer than Liddell or Rampage, so what would be the point of watching those guys throwing punches if I already know the result of the fight?

 

there is much truth in this. however there is one big difference, real boxing fans who dislike mma don't fake that they are fans of mma. far too often these mma lovers pretend they are boxing fans to shield themselves from the hate label. they ramble on about how they are boxing fans and that's total bullshit. if you were truly a fan of boxing, they'd want it to prosper but no, they want boxing to die in order to elevate mma. that is NOT a fan...

 

I'm not a fan of MMA. I've always thought of it as a hybrid between wrestling and boxing.

As far as rewatching MMA matches, it's not high on my list...

"However"

The KO's are far more brutal and commonplace. Highlights of MMA fights are more rewatchable than those of boxing.

 

I thought it was a war. :dunno:

That's one of my favorite Holyfield fights, my favorite fight of his in which he wins.

I disagree.

De La Hoya's "superfight" with Hopkins was worse.

 

Best post of this thread.

 

yeah how can you say your a boxing fan, and in the same breath say your sport is gonna die, and is dieing

 

there are some mma fights i rewatch, rampage fights have a rewatchable value because he slams people, v.silva fights for his knees, some nog fights for submissions, but fighters like tito who just ground and pound, they have very little rewatchable value to them, no one wants to watch a whole fight of humping and grinding, with no one really trying to end the fight

 

Those people bug me because I think they are wrong, but that is not the point he was trying to make. It's not necessarily contradictory to be a fan of something and say it is going to die and/or is dying. It is contradictory to say you are a fan of something and then say you hope it dies which was his point.

 

absolutley. I used to watch the pride fights on Fox Sports quite a bit. The dumbasses that hosted it tried very hard to be like Brian Kelly on ESPN. But the guy who fights also(bald headed white dude name escapes me) would constantly start off like this, "I love boxing, BUT boxing is on the way out and MMA is on the way in and up." He constantly felt the need to put boxing down. You would never hear Brian Kelly be unprofessional like that. That's why I thought less of Floyd when he did it. Boxing doesn't need to stoop to that level.

Father of Muze is right, it is a hybrid sport. The fighters are good at allot of things, but not great at any one aspect. I seem to always hear, boxers wouldn't stand a chance in the octagon, they are one-dimensional. But no one brings up the fact if a MMA guy gets in a boxing ring he gets trounced by guys like Leonard Dorin or Kevin McBride.:nono: let alone great boxers.

 

RE-watchability? Shit, 9/10's of the boxing on tv and ppv isn't worth watching the first time let alone a second.