Create the perfect p4p fighter using CURRENTLY ACTIVE fighters.

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Let's have some fun, We havent done this for a long time, I got the idea off at max forums.

    Using these attributes, who's traits would you use to fill in the following:

    1. Stamina
    2. Boxing ability
    3. Defense
    4. Chin
    5. Footwork
    6. Speed
    7. Power
    8. Killer instinct
    9. Ring smarts
    10. Heart
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  2. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Stamina- Manny Pacquiao
    Boxing ability- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Defense- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Chin- Oliver McCall
    Speed- Zab Judah
    Power- Rafael Marquez
    Ring smarts- Bernard Hopkins
    Heart- Lamon Brewster
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    1. Stamina: Juan Diaz
    2. Boxing ability: Mayweather
    3. Defense: Mayweather
    4. Chin: Toney
    5. Footwork: Hopkins
    6. Speed: Judah
    7. Power: Wlad Klitschko
    8. Killer instinct: Pacquiao
    9. Ring smarts: Mayweather
    10. Heart: Pacquiao
     
  4. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Ok here are my picks:popcorn:


    1. Stamina-Ricky Hatton
    2. Boxing ability-Bernard Hopkins
    3. Defense-Floyd Mayweather
    4. Chin-Evander Holyfield
    5. Footwork-Hopkins
    6. Speed-Zab Judah
    7. Power-Cotto
    8. Killer instinct-Pacman
    9. Ring smarts-Bernard Hopkins
    10. Heart-Miguel Cotto

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  5. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    stamina, chin, speed, ring smarts could also go to floyd. so basically, all you got is floyd + others' power and heart (who said floyd doesnt have heart?)
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    :lol:
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    He's not "deficient" in those areas but this about the best in each one.
     
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    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Floyd has excellent stamina, but I'll put guys ahead like Manny Pacquiao and Juan Diaz because they show it more with their styles. Maybe Mayweather can throw that many shots and still be very fresh, maybe he'll fatigue a bit, but I'll just put guys that I've seen throw a ridiculous amount of shots, use some movement, and still go strong late in the fight.

    Same with chin...Floyd seems to have a good chin, but it's not like he gets hit flush on the chin very often. We've seen guys like Oliver McCall, Lamon Brewster, and James Toney (although he rolls well with the shots) take a lot of heavy leather extremely well.

    Defense and ring smarts can be either Floyd or B-Hop....interchangable to me.
     
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    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    how about the weakest fighter ever?

    chin - augie sanchez
    heart - freitas or golata
    stamina - judah
    speed - valuev
    power - calderon
    ring generalship - mundine
    cuts - martin castillo
    footwork - ponce de leon
    professionalism - toney (roids) or jl castillo(weight)
    trainer - oscar suarez
    promoter - murad mohammad
     
  10. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    What's wrong with choosing Cotto for power? :tease:
     
  11. Orthodox Crusader

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    1. Stamina------------------Sakio Bika
    2. Boxing ability-------------Joe Cal
    3. Defense------------------Turdy
    4. Chin-------------------Wayne Mac
    5. Footwork---------------Mozley
    6. Speed-----------------Zab
    7. Power-------------------Wlad
    8. Killer instinct-------------Wlad
    9. Ring smarts---------------James Toney
    10. Heart--------------------Cotto
     
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    stamina: Ouma
    Boxing Ability: Mayweather
    Defense: Mayweather
    Chin: Sam Peter
    Footwork: Mayweather
    Speed: Mayweather
    Power: Raffy Marquez
    Killer Instinct: Pacquiao
    Ring Smarts: Mayweather
    Heart: Cotto
     
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    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Since it would be easiest to pick some unknown or a guy like Eric Crumble, I'll just pick current fighters who were at one point, titlists or contenders.

    Chin - Bruce Seldon
    Heart/Mental Stability - Andrew Golota
    Stamina- Shannon Briggs
    Speed - Carlos Baldomir
    Power - Ivan Calderon
    Ring Generalship - David Tua
    Professionalism - James Toney
    Ring Smarts- Zab Judah
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This is going to be fun:bears:
     
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    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    power cotto? are you serious?
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    1. Stamina - Manny Pacquiao
    2. Boxing ability - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Defense - Winky Wright
    4. Chin - Bernard Hopkins
    5. Footwork - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    6. Speed - Manny Pacquiao
    7. Power - Manny Pacquiao
    8. Killer instinct - Manny Pacquiao
    9. Ring smarts - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    10. Heart - Manny Pacquiao
     
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    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    weakest fighter continued...

    activity rate/punch output - hopkins
    stink level - spinks
    consistency - judah
    excuses - judah
    brittle hands - malignaggi
    ring attire - chop chop corley
    personality - tarver
    ego - tarver
    physique - marcos primera or toney
    hype level - jdon codrington
    luck w/ judges - jermain taylor
     
  18. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Whats wrong with this?:tease: Cotto has shown to have power that breaks his opponents down.
     
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    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I think cotto has more heart than he does power.

    He has power, yes, but its his perseverance that allows his power to shine thru.

    He persevered against Torres, as he did with Judah. His lip was punched thru and he shook it off and kept coming.

    Whoever takes Cottos "0" will really and truly have to nail him down.
     
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    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    well he knocked his dick off, then he kept coming
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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  22. Double L

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    1. Stamina - Pacquiao
    2. Boxing ability - JMM
    3. Defense - Toney
    4. Chin - McCullough
    5. Footwork - PBF
    6. Speed - Judah
    7. Power - Tua
    8. Killer instinct - Pacquiao
    9. Ring smarts - Hopkins
    10. Heart - Morales

    What about in-fighting? - Castillo
     
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  23. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Why do people assume that Pac has mad Stamina???

    Surely Marquez gets the stamina nod over Pac??:dunno:

    Fuck it....Pac gassed more from the 1st round in their fight than JMM....and JMM was the one getting floored.:eek:

    Try not to confuse "all action" with "stamina".

    Ricky Hatton has displayed stamina....but against Collazo and Urango, that was patently absent.
     
  24. Double L

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    Hatton's stamina is a myth. The only reason he doesn't collapse is because he holds for 2 1/2 minutes of every round. So in essence, he's constantly taking a break. Lampley will have you believe that Hatton is in perpetual motion and that he's a machine, because, well, Lampley doesn't watch fights, he just calls them.

    Pacquiao's stamina is amazing when you consider the work-rate that he maintains consistently throughout a fight, and that he's almost always on the offensive. In other words, he expends more energy than his opponents on a consistent basis and still has more left in the tank. That's why when he fights it seems like he's fighting at a completely different pace. He is. His opponents can't keep up with him. If I had to pick one thing about Pacquiao that makes him special it is the pace he's able to maintain throughout a fight. It allows him to dismantle his opponents and not let them breath.
     
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    Dude there have been some dumb things said lately, but JMM has better boxing ability than Floyd mayweather...

    cmon now
     
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    :lol: I was gonna say.
     
  27. Double L

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    news for YOU dude. what PBF does is not boxing. not in a traditional sense. do you even know what boxing is?
     
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    Is muhammad ali a great boxer?...how about Pernell Whitaker or Larry holmes?
     
  29. Double L

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    categories that should be added:

    in-fighting - Castillo

    counter-punching - JMM

    pot-shotter - PBF
     
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  30. Double L

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    yes. all three of them are. and PBF doesn't fight like any of them.
     

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