What do these guys all have in common?

Travis Simms
Sergei Dzinziruk(sp:dunno: )
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Jermain Taylor
Arthur Abraham



Answer:

They are all world champions with undefeated records, all in Floyd's weightclass give or take one up or down. This isn't even counting Mosely or Margarito. But yet none of them deserve to fight the Pretty Boy.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Its unfair to ask Floyd to fight middlweights....but he has dodged/ducked Mosley and Margarito without any doubt. His biggest scalp, Oscar, started off at 130, and is effectively a part-time boxer. Floyd has cherry picked his way around 140 and 147 and now into 154. Its undeniable, and it will hurt Floyds legacy unless it is addressed.:nono:

 

Floyd is not and never will be a middle weight. He's gone too far up already. Anyone above 154 shouldn't even be considered for a fight with Floyd.

 

I agree with you, but when one calls himself "Better than Ray Robinson" yet retires without fighting any of the best fighters around him, its pathetic. I threw in Taylor and Abraham just for shits and giggles, I am in no way calling for him to fight those guys. But I am calling for him to fight the best at 154 and 147.:nono:

 

PBF views his years at 130 and at 135 as having paid his dues. After that, he's just lived off those wins with dazzling performances against the likes of Gatti, basically pimping his fans, talking shit, and ducking the best.

Shit. Imagine if Castillo, Hernandez and Corrales all ducked PBF? Where would he be now? He'd probably be begging a guy like Margarito for a shot.

I give him credit for fighting and in the very least coming close to beating ODH, but I don't think anything he's done distinguishes him as the best at 140, 147 or 154.

 

You'll get no argument from me on this. I've been saying the same thing forever. Floyd may appear to be the best boxer in the game right now, but he has yet to prove it by beating the best available fighters. Sure he has a respectable resume, I won't debate that. If you look at his comp between the time he left 135 and the the time he faced oscar. his comp is rather weak. Some of the guys he faced are decent no doubt, but there is nobody on earth that can tell you with a straight face that Floyd fought the best guys at 140-154.

 

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I give him the credit for DLH as well. Although its pathetic to say you are going to destroy a guy and then fight the way he did.

The fact is though, DLH isn't even mentioned in p4p conversation anymore, hasn't for many years.:nono:

 

yeah. remember he said, "brutally..." with this psychotic tone - what a fucking phony he is !!! ::

 

:bears: That's my biggest knock against Floyd...

If the fight was judged on who kicked the others ass as a whole, Oscar won..

 

You hate Floyd because he said some shit? It's fucking ridiculous. ::

Why aren't you all hating DLH, he said he was gonna HURT! Floyd with every punch and he was gonna make it a very physical fight, who bullshitted more?

 

The answer is Floyd bullshitted more. At least Oscar came forward with intention of fighting, and didn't run away like a cunt.

 

yeah. you have no point here, because ODH did exactly what he said he would - he went after PBF and for better or worse, he focused on throwing power and doing damage.

ODH probably could've amateured his way to a points victory, but he set his mind on making it a fight. PBF didn't hold up his end of the bargain.

 

DLH moved foward barely throwing punches, scared to throw the jab because he didn't want to get countered and hurt. He said he was gonna make it a physical fight for Floyd and he was gonna hurt him with every punch... If we all gonna be idiots who hang on to every word a boxer says to get you to pay 60 dollars to see them fight as we all did, then DLH is the much bigger bullshitter because he damn sure didn't come close to doing what he said he was gonna do.

 

Barely throwing punches and getting shit done... he bullshitted me big time, he said he was gonna KO Floyd, destroy him, hurt him with every punch, throw the jab... damn, what a BS piece of shit. He lied to me.

 

PBF didn't counter one jab ODH threw. He couldn't becayse if ODH;s height and reach, That wasn;t the reason he didn't jab,. i don't know why he didn't jab - but that; not why, PBF had no answer for ODH's jab - not even his own jab was working against ODH's.

 

Cotto
Margarito
Mosley


and maybe the Winner of Hatton vs. Castillo..if it's Hatton even better...



those are the 3-4 guys Mayweather needs to fight...Simms bullshit, even though he is very skilled it would NOT mean much at this point. TAYLOR? No way will Mayweather go for the undisputed middleweight championship, NOW had SPINKS defeated Taylor Pretty boy would jump on that shit...Abraham, Sergei those fight don't mean SHIT for pretty boy...

 

I'm not arguing you saw the same fight than us, good for you.

 

you know damn well there's a difference here. ODH "tried" to do what he said he'd do. PBF starting in round 1 never once attempted the brutal beating he said he would.

ODH's game-plan, whether or not it succeeded, was fully in line with his stated intentions before the fight. PBF's was night and day. if you can't see the difference, forget it. we'll agree to disagree.

if i said i would fix the plumbing, and i went to the basement with my tools and started replacing the pipes, but it was still fucked up, that's different than saying you're gonna fix the plumbing and then going to the movies instead.

 

If you thought Floyd was gonna brawl with the much bigger man and destroy him as he said he would then I'm sorry but you're a much bigger idiot than him.

 

he said he was gonna brutally beat him. not a single thing he did in that fight showed any intention of doing so. from round 1 on he pecked. Sports Illustrated asks on the cover of the issue, "can PBF save boxing." the answer is a resounding, "no."

 

Unlike DLH, that part, he accomplished. :)

 

I'm not gonna argue the Margarito ducking by floyd. Margarito is high risk/low reward.....But Mosley never offered floyd a solid contract, and he never seemed to call floyd or fight the champs at 147 lbs. he still haven't fought margarito or cotto and he says he's the best at 147 lbs. And Cotto, well it's up to Arum to offer Floyd a contract, but when both were under top rank, arum never wanted cotto near floyd for a reason.

 

Exactly.....

Floyd can dance and win decisions everytime out and I wouldn't mind a bit.. But don't preface your dance-a-thon by claiming it's going to be a brutal beat down..

 

:dunno: WTF!?..I thought Margarito wasn't "worthy" ..why are people including Margarito in thier opponent shortlists for Fraud all the time?.. aren't you undoing all the good work you did when Mayweather introduced a new 'class system'?...dictating what was 'worthy' to him, and what was not?....:nono: you aint doin' your job properly buddy, stick to Fraud's properghanda.

 

pbf fought bums at 140 i think in my mind mosely kos him

 

I don't like Floyd Mayweather at ALL.

"However"

I am so sick of seeing the same anti-Floyd retread threads that I am on the verge of rooting for him just to stick it to you guys. :warning: ::

 

Just throwing the name out there....Cotto will destroy Margarito come October...and his name would be erase from boxing. But for right now he is still somewhat relevant cause he talks a good game, but always finds a way to avoid fighting the TOP GUYS, they fight each other but Margarita seem to be out of the loop.

 

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I think someone's trying to take Double L's title of "biggest Floyd hater on the board"

 

Floyd landed one "pull-counter" early in round 3 near the ropes, but Oscar walked right through it

Actually Floyd landed a his share of jabs to the head and also the body (which he would follow with a right hand to the head). Oscar's jabs were doing more damage as it would sometimes visibly snap Floyd's head back or move him (when he went to the chest), but he didn't throw enough of them for whatever reason.

I just say it was another one of Oscar's strategic errors in a big fight. It's hardly the first time it has happened.