De La Hoya - Mosley 1 was fought at a HIGH LEVEL!!

i agree, only thing that stoped mosely dlh 1 from being better was oscars running in the last rounds, ill take a skilled fight over too c fighters like gatti and ward banging each others brains out

 

this coming from a fan of the most overrated fighter (in terms of entermainment) in history?

 

EDITTED to be nice.

STFU!!!!!:flip:

 

Not to mention, Sly considers Treach the greatest MC of all-time.

:laughing:

 

"You down with OPP, Yeah you know me!!"

 

You mean Duran?

Yeah I especially enjoyed the first 12 rounds of the Lampkin fight. His fights were so aesthically pleasing, nothing better to watch than to see a guy come forward and then get hugged every 15 seconds.

 

This is a direct result of a comment made in this thread:

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17849


So why was there a need to create a brand new thread?

 

Like I said before, if you want to talk about HIGH LEVEL action and great fight then talk about Leonard Hearns 1.

De La Hoya - Mosley?? What...just because Max Kellerman said it? GTFOH!!

 

De La Hoya-Mosley I had more consistent action than Leonard-Hearns I.

 

After the most disappointing MEGAFIGHT of the late 90s, De la Hoya- Mosley was a refreshing Welterweight battle with 2 very exciting rounds (9th and 12th) and the rest good pleasing rounds.

But don't make it into more than it was, PLEASE!! :doh:

It wasn't action packed throughout. It contained no drama...it didn't have constant shifts in momentum, no one was hurt, neither were boxing particularly well either.

Stop overrating this fight.

 

I disagree (you need to watch both fights again), but let's say for a moment or two this is true..my point is...

If you wantto talk about a HIGH LEVEL fight (in other words...a fight that showcases superstar talent on display from both fighters)..then talk to me about Leonard Hearns.

If you want to talk about a HIGH ACTION/DRAMA fight, then talk to me about Gatti-Ward, Chico-Castillo, Morales-Barrera.

My point is that Mosley-De La Hoya fits into NEITHER category!!!

Overrated fight!!

 

I've seen both fights a few times. The action was more consistent in DLH-Mosley I. Much of Hearns-Leonard I was a chess match. Rounds 9-12 were way slower than any stretch in Mosley-DLH I. Rounds 1-5 weren't exactly burn-burners either. Some high quality exchanges along with a lot of moving, feinting, positioning, footwork, etc..

Mosley-De La Hoya I fits into it, just not as extreme. They're not as great skill-wise as Leonard-Hearns or Leonard-Duran, but they're still top fighters.

The action in Mosley-De La Hoya I wasn't like Corrales-Castillo I (very few fights are) or Gatti-Robinson I, but it still had good action.

It doesn't have to be that extreme, at the very top of each category, to not be a very good fight.

 

To me too...and SIGNIFICANTLY better than De la Hoya-Mosley 1

 

ding,ding,ding! We have a winner!:cheer:

Slystaff can only find enough love in his heart for Floyd. It bothers him when other boxers receive praise and with the little war of words going on right now between Floyd and Mosely he just gets so flustered when someone praises Shane. Before it was Cotto, and before that it was DLH. Come on now, guys we all remember how he down played DLH before the fight with Floyd, saying his resume sucks compared to Floyd's and so on. Now that Floyd beat him, well shit. DLH is an Icon in Slystaff's mind, now.

Is DLH/Mosely 1 better than Corrales/Castillo 1? not a chance. Is it better than DLH/Floyd? By a longshot. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just blinded by Floyd's teabag.:nono:

 

Exposed as a liar. No need to lie in order to try and make a point...when you do it...your post is invalid.

 

It could be, but also had a lot more to do with atmosphere (and of course, the action that created it). I was at the fight, and actually enjoyed it live A LOT more than watching the replay the day after.

The atmosphere surrounding all three Gatti-Ward fights made them seem greater than they really were, especially the 3rd fight. I remember at fights end, Greg Leon and I, seated next to one another, couldn't hear a word the other was saying.

I wasn't at Ward-Augustus, just watched on TV so I can't comment. But yeah, a full arena and HBO production will generally give the event a greater big-fight feel than a club show.

 

good ko though:dunno:

Ali is the most boring "entertaining" fighter EVER. 75% of his fights are unwatchable

 

now now, being a fan of Ali and then Critiquing DLH for excitement is pretty stupid, don't kill the messenger

 

Oh yeah, Ali was mostly dull.

When I watch old films of Ali and Duran, I like to see the brilliant things they do in there, but in order to do so, I gotta sit thru a lot of stink to get there.

Kind of like some of Floyd's fights (G. Vargas, Castillo 2, Baldomir).

 

Notice how Slystaff, doesn't rebute anything here:laughing: . He just calls me a liar, takes his ball and goes home.

Man, you know you used to talk shit that DLH's resume wasn't as good as your boy's. Now you tell us all how brave Floyd was to take the fight because DLH is great and bigger and blah,blah,blah. Don't cry cuz I shit in your cornflakes, homey. The fact is with every biased ass post and thread you make here about Floyd, you are the one exposed to the rest of us as just another groupie ass nuthugger.

 

Yeah but in his biggest fights, Ali was very exciting...and that's very important. It's one thing being exciting when you're fighting a bunch of bums..but when you can PRODUCE when the eyes of teh world are on you...that's what seperates the men from the boyz!

Liston
Frazier 1 and 3
Foreman

Also can you tell me that the 15th rounds of Spinks1 and Shavers were boring?

Those were his biggest nights, and he delivered.

 

I don't always blame Duran when it comes to that though, sure he comes in and instigates the infighting, but he normally doesn't grab on the way in. i mena he fought guys who satyed in their and "fought like a man" and well, the opponents didn't fare so well on that, (Cuevas/Palomino/Moore/Leonard I).

There were some fights of his that are hard to watch (first 12 rounds of lampkin and buchanan fights for example.)

On the contrary Ali instigated most of the holding (of the head no less) in most of his fights. idk I'll watch Lampkin/Duran before I watch Ali/Mildenberger again

 

Those were great fights for sure, but he was also in fights as champ, especially his defenses, that were almost unwatchable.

 

You know nothing, just making shit up as you're going along, probably with spliff in hand and dreadlocks flowing...::

 

oh and you can thank Liston, Frazier, and Foreman for that, as those guys were almost NEVER in a bad fight.

And if the shavers and spinks fights are exciting, than so was Duran/Lawlor

 

Neither Liston fight was exciting. He boxed well against a terrific fighter, but that doesn't make it exciting or action packed.

Frazier I and II were classics, Frazier II was god-awful. The Norton fights were not good either.

The only title defense in his first reign that was entertaining was his beatdown of Williams. Ali was more vulnerable later on so he was involved in some better fights, but he was still generally dull to average in terms of entertainment level in the ring.

Ali being exciting in the ring was the exception, not the norm.

 

i loved the norton fights:dunno:

 

sure thing

I have never claimed to be the most "all knowing" on the board. I leave that title for Jake's of the world. But the difference between you and I is I don't ride any fighters jock. I have been around boxing for far too long, to be a nuthugger like yourself. I know they all have flaws. I watch for the love of the sport, not the love of a certain fighter's nutsack. :nono:

p.s. my head is shaved, so no dreads here. And I'm a native american so no spliff neither, however I used to pass the peace pipe around a bit back in my day

 

Why did this need another thread? Seriously, STFU sly. People can think whatever they want. Who the fuck made you boss of opinions?

 

1st of All, There's DEGREE's of "Excitement" or "Entertainment"...

2nd, Watching an Ali Fight 20 + Years AFTER the Fact, KNOWING the Result AHEAD of Time is Obviously Gonna Effect the "Excitement" or "Entertainment Value" of it...

PERSPECTIVE Adds to the Equation...

REED