Wlad does the talking, Chagaev/Ibragimov actually do it

Ibragimov-Chagaev unification!

This October, Seminole Warriors Boxing, Golden Grain Promotions and Sampson Lewkowicz, in association with Universum Box Promotions, will promote the first heavyweight title unification bout in close to eight years when WBO champion Sultan Ibragimov faces off against his WBA counterpart, Ruslan Chagaev, in Moscow, Russia. The historic event presented by Nafta Moskva is not only the first unification bout between two European-born fighters and the first heavyweight unification bout held outside the United States, but it is the first heavyweight unification bout since 1999, when Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield engaged in two bouts with each fighter’s titles up for grabs. On Thursday, the two champions will meet the press for the official announcement of this historic fight.at the President Hotel in Moscow.

F*** Wlad. :flip:

 

wlad fought and beat sam peter, chris byrd, and calvin brock in succession. now he's lined up to fight a guy who stopped him and it's not like brewster is some sort of bum after one loss. changaev and ibragimov havent really done shit and their paper unification bout won't mean much.

 

How soon before the titles get split and the winner of Krasniqi-Thompson becomes the WBO titleholder and Valuev is promoted to Champion?

 

You do know the other belt holders HAVE TO AGREE to fight Wlad don't you? Wlad can't just say I'm fighting you and it happens. Your post is stupid Wlad bashing on something he can't control.:flip:

 

wlad doesnt really have control over who he fights. i mean, he might, but it's Shelly Evil and Inept Steward who's doing the managing part.

 

So what? Chagaev has fought Virchis, Ruiz and Valuev. That is at least equal to Wlad´s body of work. If Chagaev beats Ibragimov he is the #1 heavyweight in the world. Wlad can talk about unification till he retires, but all he´ll probably do is avenge his loss to Ross Puritty. ::

 

That is what they used to say about Ricky Hatton. He forced Warren to get him Tszyu, dropped Warren afterwards to win three more world titles and just KO´d Jose Luis Castillo. Wlad is probably a lot like Joe Calzaghe, he likes to talk a lot about big things, but doesn´t really want to pay the other guy.

 

Even though they aren't the best, it's good that they're actualy making this happen. It's gotta start somewhere. Maybe Wlad can fight the winner and now three of the four are unified. Vitali might get knocked out by Peter, and a Peter vs. Wlad rematch would be HUGE!

 

or maybe Brewster will KO Wlad again, then lose against Oliver McCall in a tuneup. Then Lewis will come out of retirement, McCall can knock his ass out again!

 

I think this is actually the best thing that could happen, because neither Chagaev or Ibragimov - even with a belt - are that known or respected yet. Both just recently won the titles against discounted champions, and they have yet to defend them.

If Klitschko were to fight either and beat them now - convincingly or otherwise - he wouldn't be given that much credit...even from those continually calling for "unification".

However, since they are both undefeated champions fighting another top heavyweights...the winner - if clear, free of controversy - emerges with significantly more credibility and would go a long way towards buildng a consensus #2 in the division that everybody can look to as the fighter Klitschko MUST fight..especially while Maskaev, Peter, Vitali, et al fight to sort out the WBC mess.

 

This is good, then Wlad will only have to beat one guy to fully unify.


Chagaev and Ibrogimov are garbage.

 

.....

So were the other guys who beat Wlad.

 

Sanders, Brewster were definitely NOT Garbage.

Purritty maybe...but he gave Sanders, Byrd and V Klitschko very good fights.

 

I'd pick Sanders and Brewster to starch Ibragamov. Not sure about Chagaev, he's not quite as bad.

 

If Sultan and Chagaev are garbage than so are Sanders and Brewster. Purrity is garbage 100%.

 

Wlad is the best HW in the world by a fairly wide margin.. The other belts are meaningless in my opinion.

 

Who have these guys beaten..or fought even???

Either you are dumb, or you are flaming.

Wlad has beaten better guys than The Dust Brothers have even DRAWN with.

Ibragimov D10 Ray Austin.

Wlad KO2 Ray Austin.

You do the maths.

 

The proverbial COUNTRY MILE separates these guys.

Wlad would fuck Ibragimov and Chagaev up, with HIS JAB alone.

Like someone said, its better this way.

Wlad can cream two of them with one fight.

 

Chagaev is undefeated and has beaten Ruiz, Valuev and Virchis, two arguably three top 10 heavyweights. So? Your turn, make us look dumb.

 

I would consider Ibragimov-Brewster even money if the fight took place with today's version of Ibragimov vs. the Brewster that was a champion, and I'd take Chagaev without hesitation to beat the same version of Brewster...which is the same one that lost to Kali Meehan.

 

Wlad has beaten

Brock {undefeated at the time #1 Contender} -KO
Sam Peter {undefeated at the time #1 Contender}-Unan Dec
Byrd {twice now} Former IBF/WBO HW Champion. Unan-Dec/KO
McCline-by KO
Mercer-By KO
Botha-by KO
Jefferson-By KO
DaV Williamson-Tech Dec
Ray Austin-KO
Monte Barrett-KO

Sorry, but Wlads record shits all over that of either of the Dust Brothers.

 

Lamon Brewster lost to Etienne (LMAO),Shufford (More LMAO) and Lyakovich who just isn't very good.

Who did Corrie Sanders ever beat that made him so great? Wlad was his only big win of his career.

Purrity, 100% garbage by any standards.

Sultan came into the Austin fight fat and looked like shit. Regardless, I still thought he won. People can talk about Wlad being the "real" champion all they want but he's not. There are 3 other guys who have titles as well and who could all possibly beat Wlad. We have saw that fights are decided in the ring and not on paper enough times to know that with Wlad by now. He was a HUGE favorite in all 3 losses.

 

Whatever man.

When Wlad puts one of these boys in a pine box, don't say I didn't warn-you-so.:nono:

 

Yeah and what about the next time Wlad gets stretched by highly "inferior" opposition? He's just about "due" to be stretched pretty soon. :blobbox:

 

...& Since McCall is BEST Known as Mike Tyson's SPARRING Partner,Surely Mike can Come Out of Retirement & when the Title 1 Last Time...


REED:cheer:

 

Aslong as Chagaev relies on incompetant German house-coaches to nourish his skills between fights, he'll never live up to his potential, the motherfucker is built most suitably for the inside game, yet it is obvious he is still no more than a preserved amatuer, yes he outboxed Ruiz from the outside, but had he been taught a trick or two about brawling in close, Ruiz might not have seen the final bell, these crucial skills he could have learned, had he stayed in America. If European or national amatuers want to adapt to thier full pro-fighting potentials, the American base, is the best place to stay.

 

I agree with most of your comments, especially on Brewster, who should really have Meehan's name added to the list of fighters he's lost to.

With the other champions, I disagree a little bit since the three other belt holders are all first time champions, and only one has had a successful title defense...and it came against a no-name in Okhello.

Klitschko has certainly proven more than any of them, though he obviously has some bad losses.

I think he's progressed past the fighter who lost to guys like Brewster and Purrity, though, and think it'd be much harder to beat him now than it was prior to this current title run.

 

oh yeah a little russian home cooking with a good chance to win or an almost certain KO loss against Wlad... decisions decisions... :crafty:


Wlad is to blame!!! :kick:

 

I think Val is just trying to put the other champions in perspective, in reference to Wlad....who seems to be getting the benefit of the doubt from a few fans here.

Is Wlad the best of the lot? Sure. But that same guy has lost to fighters inferior to those holding trinkets right now and it just wouldn't be right to crown Wlad king of a division that he has no claim over as of yet.

 

Schreib this again in Deutsch, because Ich have no fuckin Idee what du are talking about.