What is the fight that could have been made but didn't that you most wanted to see??

Yep, it would have been fun to see Jones beat Benn to a bloody pulp in Mayweather-Gatti fashion.

 

, sit down and I'll take you through it, step by stepld:. See, I was implying that Tito is so much slower than Forrest that his shots are like what Forrest's would be like if they were thrown through some sort of thick goo or sticky paste. So slow that they mostly wouldn't land and that Shane would win. Get it?opcorn:

 

at least benn would make a fight out of it. Thats more than alot of Jones' opponents did.

 

Trinidad's handspeed is AT LEAST equal to Forrest's. Don't be fooled by the fact that Tito has slow feet and is very patient...when he let's his hands go, he's far from slow.

For example..Corrales' hands were as fast as Floyd's...but you only realized it when he was fighting a stationary target (Castillo). Floyd made Corrales appear slow...because he was stalking Floyd all night and needed to be set befre he could throw.

 

Benn would make a fight out fo it for al of ONE round. From round 2 on he'd be getting beaten from pillar to post.

 

That's a good one.

I remember that being discussed and might have happened if Sanchez didn't get into that accident. I got the impression that Sanchez wanted a shot at Arguello but didn't want anything to do with Pedroza. I think Pedroza would have won a decision if they fought.

 

Like I said wtf? :notallthere:

When has Vernon Forrest had significantly faster handspeed than Trinidad? Trinidad never had slow handspeed, it was his footwork that gave him a reputation as a "plodder", Trinidad has always had decent handspeed.

You simply don't know very much about boxing.

 

well maybe it's footspeed I should be making an issue of then. But whichever it is, Tito has never moved as fast as Vernon did in that clip in his entire fucking life.

 

Yes he has when Tito has someone hurt like that, he finishes just as viciously.

Forrest didn't use footwork to beat Shane's ass in that clip, he used timing by popping shane over his pitter patter jab, and putting him on queer street. Tito does that as a matter of course, it's simply the way he fights. In fact, when Forrest gets aggressive like he did there, he throws combinations very similar to Tito.

 

mosley was scared of the straight right hand, which is why he fought the way he did in the forrest rematch. tito has a great left hook, but when was the last time you saw mosley get hit clean by a hook?

 

So Tito is a one handed puncher now?

These arguments are ridiculous. Tito has hurt plenty of fighters with his right hand.

 

Ricardo Lopez vs Too Sharp Johnson
Ricardo Lopez vs Johnny Tapia
Ricardo Lopez vs Danny Romero

@ 1 Point,Lopez was like 5-8 lbs within ALL of those Cats...



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I dont think Benn had the chin to take a beating from Roy. Jones would ice him, and leave him on his back in under 4 rounds.

The only real threat to a prime RJ at 160-168 would have been a prime Nunn.

 

too sharp vs. finito would've been one-sided. lopez was too small. i'd pick tapia to win convingly too. he might have outboxed romero, but romero would've had a very good puncher's chance.

 

nunn was past his prime after the toney fight. roy would've beaten him at 168.

 

I'm more talking about at 160. The Nunn that beat Frank Tate would have been a very legit threat to Roy.

 

:eeeek: :eeeek: :doh: :doh: :nono: :nono:

 

Apparently,Sly was TWI...

TYPING While Intoxicated...


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I always wanted to see Roy knocked out by Dariusz but Roy was too busy cleaning out New York Citys public service work force.

 

:bears:

Boy,U're a BOTTOMLESS PIT of OVERUSED,INACCURATE Boxing Cliches,Aren't U??...

WORSE,YOU'RE the Guy who PLAYED the Race Card on Another Thread,yet Here YOU Go Dissing Yet ANOTHER Black Fighter...

BRAVO!!!


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:: There's two so far, Floyd and Roy, I must be a racist huh? My two favorite fighters of all time are Marvin Hagler and Joe Louis, how about you ReEd?

 

I hear ya, but Benn took a beating from mcClellan, who hit a little harder than Jones, before coming back to finish him (albeit with a headbutt and rabbit punches).

Like I said...Jones would administer a hellacious beating.:eeeek:

 

Corrales has (had) BLAZING handspeed, make no mistake. He only appeared slower handed than Floyd, because Floyd was making him miss and Floyd's movement was discouraging Corrales from throwing.

I urge you to look at these two fights interchangeably:

Corrales - Castillo 1
Mayweather - Castillo 2

Look at the eye-catching combo's of both Mayweather and Corrales against Castillo..and tell me that Floyd had a significant advantge in handspeed.

 

As sad as it sounds,now that I think about it,Tua would of easily knocked Tyson the fuck out in the third or fourth roundopcorn:

 

Chico had quick hands, but not blazing handspeed. Certainly not on Floyd's level. Saying Chico had quicker hands than Floyd is like saying Tito had quicker hands than DLH. In both instances, you'd be wrong.

 

Good Analogy...

UNTIL they Fought Each Other,REED THOUGHT Tito & DeLa had COMPARABLE Handspeed,but their Fight PROVED REED Wrong...

REED Also Thought Vargas & Tito had COMPARABLE Handspeed,UNTIL they Got N the Same Ring...

On that SAME Note,REED Questioned who had BETTER Handspeed btwn Floyd & Zab,but we Got the Answer...

Bottom Line,NO WAY N HELL was Chico's Handspeed COMPARABLE to Floyd's:nono: ...If it WAS,it Would've Shown up WHEN THEY FOUGHT...



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Tito's handspeed > Forrest's handspeed
Tito's accuracy > Forrest's accuracy
Tito's variety of punches > Forrest's variety of punches

Shane is not a defensive specialist. He's fast with good reflexes but is aggressive and open down the middle as well, and tends to get hit due to his aggressive "power-boxing" style.

I'm not saying Shane can't win (it's a great matchup) but I think Shane would definitely take his share of licks if he does.

 

Floyd had a tough time putting together combos against Castillo.

Corrales threw more fluid combos on the inside, especially with the 3 punch combo where he doubles the left hook and then follows with the right.

Floyd has quicker hands, but he's not as fluid with his combos as Corrales was (at least when he was on the inside). Some of his fights he seemed more fluid with his combos and committed more (Burton, Gatti), but often he doesn't. Or his combos are slower because he's so deliberate that he doesn't let them fly. For instance, he'll hit a guy with a shot or two, size em up with the left hand, and then throw the right.

 

Yep, my guess is Tito gets up like usual at welter and crushes Quartey in 7.

 

Corrales' hands were NOT as fast as Floyd's. I cannot believe you really think this. ::