Is there anyone out there that can beat Wlad? Sure anyone can beat anyone on any given night it's heavyweight boxing afterall and it only takes one punch but would you bet any serious money..your own hard earned money on anybody at this time to defeat wlad? and don't even mention peter he got schooled already..so who does that leave?
It really is hard to find anyone who would trouble him...maybe Valuev? The size and decent chin could trouble wlad maybe?
Only a lucky punch will beat Wlad right now. He wins 90 times out of a 100 versus anyone in today's top 20..
Yeah the heavyweight division is devoid of quality right now. Wladimir rules over a division of bums and old men.
Thats what I love about it all. You have a Korean like Steve Kim and a mongrel like that douchebag Doug Fisher, and they are desperately consulting the Oxford English dictionary in the search for new words with which they can put down Wlad and undermine his success. When are you fucking midgets going to get it?? Nobody gives a fuck what you think......NO Oriental is entitled to an opinion on Heavyweight boxing. Ever. There's like a minimum height/weight requirement before you can open your mouth. The big people are talking, which means all fucking midgets are to be SEEN and NOT HEARD.
You need a different angle besides race man. It's just not cool. Call me queer, softie, or whatever, I don't even care about the asian midget comments, but saying "Orientals" and "Mongrels" is the equivalent of "kike" or "n*gger" for Asians.
dsimon writes: Sam Peter. He has improved and finally got it through his thick head that when he takes his training seriously he can be a force to be reckoned with. He may be competitive in a rematch with Vlad.
WTF......I called fucking Doug Fischer a mongrel...and thats in reference to his fucking articles. And Oriental IS NOT racist. In fact, its a lot more accurate than "Eastern" and a lot more specific than "ASIAN". Shit...WLAD is an Asian. But he is not an Oriental.
dsimon writes: Why are you being a rascist asshole? Calm the fuck down and make your point in a way that is not inflammatory.
Oriental is an antiquated latin term that means Eastern and was used by Romans and later Medieval Western powers to describe items of trade. It's not considered PC to use that term towards an asian person. Mongrel is a term that was used as a racial insult in the 19th and 20th centuries. It's a derogatory term for a variation that is not genuine; something irregular or inferior or of dubious origin. People who were deemed "mongrels" couldn't hold certain places of power or move up the social ladder because they weren't considered "pure" enough. But like I said, no skin off my nose, if you want to continue using terms like that. I don't really care. I think Joony was right though, some things are allowed here and others aren't. :dunno:
dsimon writes: Yes he has. That is why it might be a competative fight. It depends upon how much Peter has improved. There is a chance that Vlad is just so much better that Peter woudn't have a chance. I wouldn't want to guess on the learning curve for these guys but I do think Peter has some skills and enough size to hang with the big boys. As compared to Brock who really does not have the natural ability, skills, or size to fight Vlad.
1. I give a fuck what is and isn't PC 2. Well its the 21st Century now. Move with the times, Dinosaur.:laughing: 3/ Think twice before you put Wlad down. I may just turn nasty and personal.
Peter looked AWFUL against Toney, in their first fight, and Toney has NO SIZE and NO Conditioning, just hella skills. If Wlad and Peter fought tomorrow, I would spend big on Wlad STOPPING him.
Yeah, he fought to survive against Tarver in the rubber but he'll take the fight to Klitschko. At this stage, is Jones really that demonstrably harder to hit than Byrd was for Klitschko?