Who can beat Wlad?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Kaliber44, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    Just about everybody Vitali fought says they've been hit harder. Even Danny Williams says Tyson hit harder than Vitali. Although it's funny since Williams looked like a bomb had exploded in his face and was sent to the hospital after Vitali was done with him.:lol:
     
  2. Kaliber44

    Kaliber44 Im Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,112
    Likes Received:
    0
    im sure danny meant tyson hits harder with a single shot..if tyson landed the number of punches vitaly did the fight wouldn't have went long
     
  3. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    Tyson landed enough punches to cause Danny to throw caution to the wind and make it into brawl. So let's leave it at that.
     
  4. Kaliber44

    Kaliber44 Im Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,112
    Likes Received:
    0
    you saying vitaly hits harder than tyson?
     
  5. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    Physically, you would think that a 6'8, 255lb man should pack heavier hands than a 5'10, 222lb man. Tyson's power relying on speed and snap, Vitali's power mostly just the weight in his arm ala Foreman.
    Tyson obviously is the deadlier puncher.
     
  6. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not Vitaly but I do believe Wlad's right hand is more powerful than Tyson's at his prime.
     
  7. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    Sure, but not tyson's left hook :tease:
     
  8. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Isn't that what I said? Wlad's RIGHT HAND.

    I never mentioned left-hook.

    Who do you think I am, Hanzy?

    :nono: :lol:
     
  9. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    I know you said right hand, but you meant Wlad's right hand was better than tyson's right hand, you may be right, but Wlad's right hand is not as hardcore as Tyson's left hook was.
     
  10. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's what I said and meant was that Wlad's right hand is better than Tyson's right hand, never brought the left-hook into the discussuion.

    But to end all things, yes, overall, Tyson's left-hook was more devastating.
     
  11. kevincarter

    kevincarter Leap-Amateur

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0

    My drug use aside...


    Roy CAN beat Wladimir.


    The problem with bird is his style is not to get away from punches as much as to parry shots and flick punches at fighters. this works against most of the comp he's had because heavyweights are less skilled than the average fighter. Jones wouldn't get in there and try to just block or deflect shots (except body shots) and counter. He would use his speed to get around the long jab and lead with rights and step away... It wouldn't be a fun fight to watch, but he can beat him...

    and it's only tobacco in that glass pipe of mine... That's my story and I'm sticking too it...:stir:
     
  12. kevincarter

    kevincarter Leap-Amateur

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0
    anime is good stuff...


    and my "avitar" is a pun... I thought people would get the joke... NO one has...
     
  13. Kaliber44

    Kaliber44 Im Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,112
    Likes Received:
    0
    i hope for your credibility sake you're joking
     
  14. kevincarter

    kevincarter Leap-Amateur

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0

    I'm breaking my arm to pat myself on the back here, but...

    I think I'm one of the better fight pickers on this site...

    In his day I woulnd't blink an eye picking Roy over Wladimir...


    I think if that same guy has one good night, he can beat Wlad for the same reasons I thought he could beat him before....

    The planets have to be aligned and Wladimir might have to get a little frustrated in the ring, but do I think it could happen...

    Yeah...
     
  15. Kaliber44

    Kaliber44 Im Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,112
    Likes Received:
    0
    no it can't ...wlad would ko roy in the first...if roy sees round 2 that in itself would be the biggest victory he could ever hope for
     
  16. kevincarter

    kevincarter Leap-Amateur

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think the fight will happen because Wladimir has too much to lose and NOTHING to gain from that fight and all that going up and down in weight for roy just CAN'T be good.

    but if it happens come to atlanta and I'll buy you a Mojito and we'll check it out...


    and NO rabid Kimba, I'll drink whisky with no CRACK chaser...

    Segrams VO Gold if you must know... :cool:
     
  17. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,689
    Likes Received:
    5,362
    Agreed. Maybe the Roy of 5 years ago could have used his speed and footwork against a cautious jab-first type Wlad to last a few.

    Now he can barely help but to be flat-footed. Klitschko would slaughter him.
     
  18. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mmm, emperor of your own mind I see.

    :lol:
     
  19. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's not too shabby, but I'm more of a tequila kinda guy, el Patrón reposado to be more specific.

    :cheer:
     
  20. kevincarter

    kevincarter Leap-Amateur

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0

    Tequila it is...
     
  21. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2005
    Messages:
    6,543
    Likes Received:
    121
    Gender:
    Male
    Good Fighter

    Wlad is a good fighter.
    I would rate him along the lines of a Primo Carnera, James J. Braddock, Maxie Baer, or Jack Sharkey historically as a heavyweight champion, which is good, but not great.
    He is good at what he does, and he wins more often than he loses, bottom line.
    Good fighter.
    Karl
     
  22. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    Don't let them bully you, Rabid. I'm sure you've seen Wlad's left hook. That's a hell of a punch he packs when he uses it.
     
  23. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    He's got quite a few more years left in the sport. Possibly, he'll grow from a good heavyweight to a great heavyweight by the time he's done.
     

Share This Page