In 25 years, who will boxing remember in a brighter light: Pacquiao or Mayweather Jr?

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Who will be remembered more fondly by boxing historians?

  1. Manny Pacquiao

    61.1%
  2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    36.1%
  3. Who gives a shit?

    2.8%
  1. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I don't remember reading articles that half of the Barrera-Juarez crowd emptied out before the 12th round. I read about Fraud's crowds leaving from USA Today, Fightnews and Larry Merchant himself. So show me your "facts", and we can discuss it further.

    As for Fraud being more well known because of the Dela Joto "Super Fight", yeah, but how much of it was good attention? :dunno:

    Besides, everyone knows that Dela Joto was the draw, not Fraud.
     
  2. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Taken from the January 2007 Edition of RING MAGAZINE (w/Grady Brewer & Sugar Ray Leonard on the Cover)...

    pg. 31

    "If Juarez was disappointed, many of the 10,421 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas were equally put out. For all of Barrera's skill, many jeered the fight's lack of toe-to-toe action. Some people actually walked out during the final round."

    There's a "FACT" for your Ass...

    If Floyd's "Name" had NO Impact on his Bout w/DeLa,then DeLa's Bouts w/Tito,Vargas,Bernard,etc. Would have Done BETTER Business than DeLa-Floyd...

    As Cats like YOU like to Say,DeLa was "Shot"...So Obviously,Floyd Brought SOMETHING to the Table,to Help that Become DeLa's BIGGEST Fight Ever...



    REED:cool:
     
  3. ?H?L?QU?L?$

    ?H?L?QU?L?$ Leap-Amateur

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    Damn, bama man just got owned hard. :cheer:
     
  4. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    How did I get owned?

    It said people started leaving in the 12th round. People leave fights all the time in the 12th when the verdict is pretty much decided.

    By the 12th round in Floyd's fight, HALF the crowd was gone. They were leaving before the 12th and Fraud got butt hurt when Merchant mentioned it. This was a Welterweight World Championship too, it's UNHEARD of.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    If you want to talk about "owned"

    Check out Fraud getting "owned" by Larry Merchant.

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    :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
     
  6. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Dela Joto - Tito, Dela Joto - Hopkins didn't have $20,000,000 in advertising behind it in the form of a 4 part hype series. :dunno:
     
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    Dude U DOUBTED that REED was even Telling the Truth @ All...YOU Said Floyd was "The 1st Fighter to have Fans Leave his Fight B 4 it's Over"....REED Called BULLSHIT on your Post & U Basically Dared REED to PROVE he was Correct...

    Well,REED did JUST That...

    "Half" REED's Ass...Leave it To Merchant to GROSSLY EXAGGERATE the # of Peeps who Left Floyd-Baldomir Early & Leave it to Floyd Naysayers to CLING to it...

    REED's POINT is,Floyd ISN'T HARDLY the 1st or Only Fighter to have Members of the Audience Leave his Fight Early,so STOP Clinging to It...



    REED:cool:
     
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    Yeah,that's It...

    Anything to Insure that U NEVER Give Floyd a Shred of Credit,Right???...So what YOU'RE Saying is,DeLa Could have Fought YOU or REED & Still Sold 2 mil PPV???...

    YOU'RE Saying that if HBO Did a 4 Part Series Hyping a Bama vs DeLa or REED vs DeLa Fight,that it would STILL Do 2 mil PPV???...

    This just MIGHT B DUMBER than your Claim that Floyd WOULDN'T Win a Single Round vs Paul Williams...


    REED:rolleyes:
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I never said that. At least quote me correctly.

    It was a fucking ghost town by the time round 12 came around for Fraud-Bumdomir. It was funny as hell seeing your idol cry when Merchant destroyed his ego in the post fight interview.

    :lol:
     
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    Well @ the Fight Watching Party that REED was @,Peeps APPLAUDED when Floyd Tore N 2 Merchant's Ass...

    That was Loooooooooooooong OVERDUE...


    REED:bears:
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    :lol:

    I don't think Merchant would lie about the crowd leaving and booing Fraud, he doesn't come off as the kind of guy who bullshits like that.

    Whatever REED, I'm tired of slagging back and forth about Fraud.

    We'll agree to disagree. I actually think Fraud is supremely talented but he just won't make the fights fans want.

    We just like different things man. You like Fraud, I like Pacquiao. You like Jay Z, I like NAS.

    But we both like boxing. So we're cool. :cool:

    p.s - Your boy needs to stop stealing shit from other fighters. Food and boxing gloves? That's fucked up for someone who carries 10 G's in their pocket. :lol:
     
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    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    roy is still a legend, no matter what shit he does now, no one looks down on what the man accomplished, this is a stupid topic anyway

    you said in an earlier post no one would care is mayweather is retired, 98 percent of your post are floyd related, the other 2 are lies about not being fat, if floyd leaves all you would have left to talk about is your weight
     
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    Right.
     
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    I saw a shitload of people leaving hattons fight with urango. big deal. merchant didn't mention it because he doesn't hate hatton like he hates mayweather.
     
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    Pac, For the beatings he gave MAB and Morales.

    WTF did GayWeathter do.
     
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    True,..there is more than one form of illegal stink,...there's running, but there's also clutching.

    There's also various forms of legal stink too,...Wlad Klitschko and Winky Wright come to mind here... it's alright to use the jab,...but for fuck sakes throw something else!!!!.....in the case of Winky,..he won't even throw a fucken hook! :doh: .
     
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    wlad used to be exciting, steward turned him into a stink pot
     
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    :bears::bears::bears:
    That was pretty much unprecedented and definitely had an impact.
     
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    If Pacquiao got some genuine respect for his accomplishments,his fans wouldn't be so aggressive.Its like everytime Pacquiao beats a top fighter,OH THEY WAS SHOT,IF THEY WERE PRIME,HE WOULD OF LOST TO ALL OF THEM BADLY.:rolleyes: But Floyd barely beats a shot De La Hoya and it ends up being the greatest victory of his career.

    Like Bama said ,he's about too enter the toughest stretch of his career and if he comes out successful he'll be number 1 p4p because Floyd's semi retired,retired.......whatever.:lol:
     
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    manny is about to to enter the toughest stretch of his carreer fighting Barrera who he destroyed years ago and is coming of a loss? :dunno:

    Floyd got ripped when he fought Judah cause he lost a decision to Baldomir

    all three Pacquiao's oponnents last year came of losses when they fought him (2 by kos) and he wins fighter of the year.:laughing:

    I think you have it backwards. Floyd gets punished for not being exciting while Manny gets all the glory.

    Manny can KO Morales again and will probably win fighter of the year in 2007:lol:
     
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    Pacquiao will be beloved for being a very accomplished and entertaining fighter.

    Floyd will likely be in the Roy Jones/Pernell Whitaker category, where people concede that he was very talented and skilled but many disliked him due to his personality.
     
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    Fixed. :clap:
     
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    Floyd will be remembered as the first track and field star that ran in a square instead of a circle.

    :bears:
     
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    Also the retard showed up wearing a sombrero to de la Hoya fight ring walk, but the thing is that the retard had the sombrero backwards, lol, every Mexican on earth was laughing his ass off.

    In turn, Ricky Hatton also wore a sombrero to the Castillo fight, but he had the sombrero on correctly.

    Hatton, smart man who is in touch with other people's cultures.

    Mayweather, ignorant retard, who doesn't even know what's the capital of his own state, lol.

    :lol:
     
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    Floyd will also be remembered for the first boxer to throw money on the ground while getting hit for child support.

    He will also be remembered as the first boxer that had his Dad say he lost the fight immediately after.
     
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    seemed to me mayweather was mocking mexicans by wearing a sombrero, not trying to win over any new fans.

    if he was trying to win you over all he'd have needed to do was include a few al pastor tacos with your ppv purchase, flaco.
     
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    You think I PAID for that fight?

    Damn, you are a retarded as him, pinche Memin Pinguin wannabe.

    :lol:
     
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    :laughing: I still chuckle whenever I think about that,..throwing money at people who have no idea who he is, like some beautiful mysterious angel who suddenly appeared, smiling kindly and doing charitable deeds, (vicariously living out his fantasy as the richest and most powerful man in the world),...........:eeeek: suddenly it's EXPOSED that he took THAT portion of funds from his child support deposits!!!,...:laughing: what a selfish, low life, cunt,..but we all knew that, it's just hilarious that his own stupity has come back to bite him on the arse again, and these consequences only cause him rage and confusion as a narcisstic sociopath. Despite his evident and diagnostic incapability of ever learning from his actions,..ironically, Fraud groupies work overtime to try and fool us into thinking "what Floyd REALLY means",...:lol::rolleyes:........
     
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