Who will go down as the GREATER fighter?

I agree with everything here but the Mosely fight. I go by the theory that all great fighters can be great for one last fight. Mosely would get up for a fight with Floyd and retire on it. Floyd has to fight Cotto and Mosely. He knows it but is running scared from it. Williams will beat Floyd. I would love to see the fight, but Floyd won't have anything to do with Williams.:nono:

 

I'm actually more interested in a Mayweather-Cotto match than any of the others. I've always felt Williams is the toughest fight for Mayweather stylistically, and now I even stronger than Paul would beat him.

I don't mind the Hatton fight, that's been overdue for a couple years. I think Hatton will be better physically this time @ 147 after having more time to properly move up. It's been awhile since we've seen Mayweather in there with an undefeated guy in/very close to his prime, an attacking swarmer.

 

What's the f*cking point of all these titles? People are gonna only remember a fighter for who he's fought. If this guy doesn't step it up, he's gonna go down as a nobody, he'll have no legacy whatsoever. In 20 years, nobody's gonna remember that this guy ever existed. What great fights has he had? What memorable fights? What legendary fighters has he fought? Most of his fights are safety-first boring bullsh*t. Fans boo the guy, hell they hit the exits while the guy's still fighting.
He needs to really start stepping it up and that means taking on the fights that matter.

 

what great fights were available for him at 130 or at 135?

the best available opponent at 130 at the time were hernandez, manfredy, corrales, freitas, and casamayor. he easily beat hernandez, blew out manfredy (who was coming off an upset win over gatti), and DOMINATED corrales who many picked to KO floyd.

at 135, he picked the best lightweight in the world, won in a controversial fashion, but gave him an immediate rematch and won convincingly.

at 135, he also beat n'dou, a guy no one wanted to fight and won in an exciting fashion.

his first fight at 140 was against a recent title holder in corley, and again, he dominated. he then took the most lucrative fight available, which was against Gatti and again, he dominated.

if hadn't fought gatti, people would've said he ducked him. he could've fought tszyu, but tszyu was inactive and eventually lost to hatton.

147, he wanted to fight judah, but judah's dumbass lost to that bum, so he easily beat the bum then fought judah right afterwards. won both fights in a lopsided fashion.

it would've been more badass if he fought margarito, but other than that, who has he ducked?

wasn't it floyd who called out mosley back in 99? whose fault was it that the fight didnt materialize? is Floyd supposed to move up to 154 and fight Travis Simms or that canadian who recently beat him? is he supposed to turn down a career high payday against a super star and fight Roman Karmazin instead?

what were these potential legendary fights you speak of?

 

:: :clap:

 

Not so fast. :nono:

You've went out of your way to put some form of asterisk next to all of Oscar's big fights yet on the other hand hyped up every one of Floyd's wins.

Even though you did in a typical bullshit way, the point is you compared resumes. I merely stated that Floyd's '0' wouldn't be there if faced the kind of competition Oscar has over the years.

 

BULLSHIT!

People are going to remember a guy for his SKILLS as well as he titles.

Joe Louis had a poor quality of opposition...who cares? He's still in the top 2 on 95% of everyone's heavyweight lists.

 

Floyd Mayweather is a better fighter.

 

how did he have poor quality of opposition? he fought EVERYONE.

 

Unfortunately for Floyd Jr, his skills aren't enough for people to give a sh*t about. His skills were shown against crap opposition. Even in his big fight against an inactive aged DLH, he still will be remembered for running like a fairy rather than actually fighting like the old school warriors of the day. Joe Louis FOUGHT and he was a heavyweight.
I'm telling you staff, if Floyd gets KTFO, his ENTIRE career is going to be called into question. That's how it is with fighters like him. He's no warrior, and his style of fighting is not viewer-friendly. It took him a lot of years to get to where he is. Most of his career, he was considered zilch on the landscape. He was just a free-tv fighter performing in tiny half-filled venues.
And today, he's doing nothing to help himself or the sport. He's still ducking all the fighters people want to see him fight. The fighters who will help define his career.
There is nothing worth remembering Floyd Jr for up to now. A few wins over Castillo, Corrales, Gatti and an old inactive DLH does not make a legend.
Floyd's got a LOT of work to do. He's popular with the hardcore fanatics but there ain't that many of us to go around. The people who bought his crappy fight with Oscar regretted it. He needs to step in there with the likes of Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, and them. There's still a lot of work to be done. If he retires now, he has no legacy. Now is the best time for him because there's so much good competition for him to make his legacy against. The fact that he wants to retire shows how much of a pussy bitch he is. He doesn't want a tough fight. People won't remember him at all.

 

Why do you think Floyd always cries so much at press conferences, whining and sobbing about how he gets no love? ::

 

Apparently, according to Sly. Joe was the only quality Heavyweight in the world for the full 12 years he held the title.

He cleaned out the division over and over again throughout the years. I want to see Floyd clean out 1 division before he retires and the Welterweight division is strong enough right now, where it would solidify his legacy forever if he could manage to do this.

 

staff's using his boxrec resources to talk sh*t about Joe Louis.::
Hey staff, we're gonna be saying the same thing about Floyd Jr in 20 years you know? Who the f*ck did Floyd fight, which division did he clean out? Why was he so boring? :laughing: You'll be hearing a lot of that.

 

Not Floyd

 

He won't do it. He has no balls. Chicken Boy is satisfied in retiring with his crappy 'undefeated' record, with his 'split decision' win over an old past-prime Oscar De La Hoya as the highlight of his career.::

 

Like I said: "IF shit had wings it would fly"

Previously undefeated Corrales, Castillo and De La Hoya at 154lbs were formidable opponents.

P4P, I'd pick Floyd over Quartey, the older Whitaker, Chavez, Vargas, Trinidad and Mosley.

It's a matter of opinion..this "IF".

The only one that I'd pick to beat Floyd, in similar circumstances, is Bernard Hopkins.

 

he has a better resume than mosley, that's for sure. :tease:

 

You have officially gone crazy Sly. Seriously bro. ::

 

HEY...let's get something straight....I'm NOT denigrating Joe Louis' career. I'm simply giving him as an example because it is known that he didn't fight a particularly strong level of opposition over the years.

Floyd's SKILLS will be remembered, no one will care too much about the supposed lack of competition (which is NONSENSE anyway seeing that he just beat Oscar to add to Judah, Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, Chavez etc....).

 

:: How so?

 

And Mosley beat Oscar twice...and more impressively. ::

Not to mention, Shane had 8 defenses and 8 KO's at lightweight.

 

i beg to differ on your first statement.

the first fight was more exciting and i thought mosley won 8 rounds, but he got hit more than mayweather did. he also didnt suffer any significant size disadvantage.

as for the rematch, it was hardly impressive and most thought he lost anyways.

the 8 defenses came in against stiffs and has-beens. he also didnt impress in his title winning effort against that australian.

what else does mosley have going for him?

 

word.

 

Fixed.

 

The Floyd-dick riders are really working overtime today! :clap:

 

No court cases, no baby mama drama, no tax liens, a solid relationship with his dad.

:dunno:

 

And a fight with Miguel Cotto.

:dunno:

 

I don't think this is any more signifigant than Oscar's win over an old 140lb version of Chavez so how Oscar at 154 becomes formidable yet in most mindsets Oscar's win over Chavez really isn't I have no idea

nice you should do PR for Floyd

 

Keep in mind that Floyd also has a questionable decision over Castillo

 

like i give a fuck about floyd. i'm simply saying, floyd has a better resume.

i dont get why everyone's shitting on his resume when he's maybe ducked like 2 people in 5 weight classes.

if anything, i'd root for shane over floyd if they were to fight.

floyd's not among my favorite fighters list.