The "I NEVER was Impressed by Margarito" Bandwagon...

:doh: Oh spare me. I don't ever want to hear about that piece of sh*t fight ever again. Still gives me nightmares. You call that an example of somebody being beaten? That's the worst fight in the history of the sport. One guy tapping and running and that's supposed to be an impressive victory? Man, boxing fans were kicking themselves after having witnessed that garbage. The fans got up and left little over mid-way. Absolutely terrible ppv.

 

Didn't he make Williams miss like 700 times the other night? That's got to be a record...

 

INDUBITABLY...

Margarito- Daniel Santos(2x), Antonio Diaz, Six Heads Lewis, Kermit Cintron, Joshua Clottey, Paul Williams


Mitchell- Leavander Johnson, Stevie Johnston, Terronn Millett, Reggie Green, Kostya Tszyu(2x), Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie, Lovemore N'Dou, Floyd Mayweather, Paul Williams


REED

 

:bears:

U've just ELOQUENTLY Stated why REED DOESN'T Want to See Floyd-Margarito...It'd B a CARBON-COPY of the Fight U Just Described...



REED

 

Wait, you're counting devastating loses as resume builders...

If so, I give you Everitt "Big Foot" Martin----The greatest HW ever...

 

:eeeek: AHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!.......:doh: actually nup,..fuck it,... you've contradicted yourself to the level that suggests your only being argumentative to cause a razz,...I won't even bother... I'll just enjoy it for it's entertaining merit now.

 

So if REED Added N Margarito's LOSSES,to Guys NONE of Us have Heard Of,that would Shed HIS Resume N a More Positive Light???...


REED:dunno:

 

REED, you're wrong about Margarito. Fighters don't get where he's gotten on determination alone. It just can't happen.

And the idea that Baldomir is even remotely comparable to Margarito is ridiculous. Why have you lumped those two together? They couldn't be more different.

And it's funny that you refer to Margarito as "winging" his shots, because in many cases, his "winging" is exactly what allows him to connect against his opponents, who more often than not, end up running from him.

He hits Williams with a lot of "winging" shots as Williams moved away. And he'd do the same to PBF.

 

HOW has REED "Contradicted" Himself...

U're saying YOU'VE NEVER Heard REED Say that "Floyd would Beat Margarito just as he Beat Baldomir" ???..

Shit,YOU agREED w/REED on that Point...


REED

 

REED, come on, Mitchell was KO'ed by 5 of the guys you listed and barely beat N'Dou. I think you're stretching it here.

 

Rocky Marciano Reached HIGHER Heights than Margarito EVER Will on SHEER Determination & Power...It CAN Happen,DOUB...

& let's NOT Pretend that Margarito has "Gotten" Anywhere Extremely Noteworthy...U're Talking like Margarito is a Future H.O.F.'er or Something...& Considering How EASY it Is to Get N 2 Boxing's Hall of Fame,it's COMICAL that Margarito HASN'T Done Enough Yet...

Shit,Mickey Ward WILL B a Hall of Famer & ALL he Had was Determination & a Left Hook to the Body:: ...

N FEWER Fights,Cotto's done MORE...Floyd,Shane,Hatton have ALL done CONSIDERABLY More...Amongst "Elite" Welters,Margarito is CLEARLY the Most UNproven...CLEARLY...

Baldomir & Margarito R VERY Similar,Stylistically...Margarito's a TAD Quicker & hits a Bit Harder (but he's NOT a Puncher Either)...

A "Winger" Would have Very Little Chance of EVER Hitting Floyd Mayweather FLUSH...A SKILLFUL,STRAIGHTER Punching,Pressure Fighter(Castillo) or a Skillful,Bigger Man (DeLa) is the RECIPE for Beating Floyd...

Not some Face 1st,Defensively INEPT,WINGING Brawler...


REED

 

:: Well if it helps you sleep at night........

 

mitchell - lost to johnson, johnston, tszyu (2x), williams, and mayweather

he beat millet when they were both rookies. millet's pro career wasn't that good anyhow. reggie green was mediocre. phillips was old as fuck. tackie was done, and n'dou isn't that good.

that's a terrible comparison.

so by your standards, francis botha has a better resume than sam peter.

 

Again,REED LEFT OUT Some of Margarito's LOSSES...& he LOST to Santos & Williams

Daniel Santos was MEDIOCRE,Six Heads was LESS than MEDIOCRE & CHINNY,Antonio Diaz was OLD AS FUCK & Cintron was Basically a ROOKIE Himself...

HOW is Margarito's Resume BETTER than Sharmba Mitchell's???...


REED:dunno:

 

Those of U that R Surprised,Taken Aback or OFFENDED by REED's Statements OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T REED the Title of this Thread...


REED::

 

Santos was not mediocre. have you seen him fight?

Cintron was a rookie who many picked to KO Margarito.

Antonio Diaz was old?

only thing i agree about is 6 heads.

mitchell has zero significant win in his resume and is more known for getting his ass kicked in his biggest fights. and every time he lost, he got knocked out.

so what if he lost to Williams? he lost by a skin of teeth. and he was robbed vs. santos, but i'm sure you detractors would say that he lost.

is this some sort of a black thing? you and X do a pretty good job of stirring up message board w/ these 'margarito sucks' threads.

 

Margarito lost 3 fights when he was in his teens, he didn't really have an extended amateur career, if he had one, so these early loss are excusable. And a lot of people thought he won the fight against Santos despite the TD. Discounting his learning phase, Margarito has 1 undisputed loss on his resume and it's against Williams (Even though I haven't seen it yet the consensus seems that he really lost it).

 

I addressed Margarito at the beginning.

He was ranked among the top 2-4 welterweights at the time, and is still ranked in the top 5 by many.

That makes him worthy of fighting anyone in the division - even Mayweather - regardless of whatever you're talking about.

Furthermore, he was regarded by the majority as better than Baldomir...and as an example of how little respect Baldomir had at the time, Gatti was considered by many the favorite in the fight.

Valdosta probably remembers who the betting favorite was...I seem to remember Gatti was (at least early on), but I could be wrong about that.

 

I usually don't agree with Joony's views but this is spot on.

Trying to say Sharmba Mitchell was more worthy at the time than Margarito is REEDtarded.

 

YES,Daniel Santos is MEDIOCRE...REED has Seen him Fight a Few Times...Didn't he Get STRETCHED by Kofi Jantuah & ROCKED by Half a Dozen Other Fighters???:dunno: ...

He's Got a Six Heads Lewis Type of CHIN...His Only REDEEMING Quality is that he's a Southpaw...Other than John Ruiz,REED is Hard Pressed to Think of a Rican Fighter who's Respected LESS by his Own Peeps...Maybe Fres Oquendo...

Cintron's Level of INexperience was GLARING when he Faced Margarito...It Wasn't So Much that Margarito KO'ed him,Cintron QUIT,Basically...

YES,Antonio Diaz was OLD when Margarito Beat him...That Fight was Well AFTER Diaz's HEYDAY,when he Fought Spinks,Ward,Robinson,Mosley,etc...

As for Your Racial Assertion,FUCK YOU...The Next Time YOU Post about a Fighter U're NOT Impressed w/will it B Some Sort of ASIAN Thing???...


REED

 

WHEN & WHERE (EXACTLY)did REED Say Sharmba was "More Deserving" than Margarito??...

WHERE???...

All REED Said was that Sharmba had a Better Resume than Margarito...Sheesh,U Act like REED Said Floyd WOULDN'T Win A SINGLE ROUND against Paul Williams,or Something...The Day REED Makes a KEEPSAKE Out of BLOODY Panties is the Day YOU Can Rightfully Call REED Retarded...

TIL Then,that Designation is ALL YOURS,Homey...

REED

 

Reed, honestly, your "resume" post was in response to me questioning Mayweather picking Mitchell as an opponent at 147 while saying Margarito was undeserving.

 

yes, jantuah stopped santos, but that was years ago. and it wasn't some sort of a cold knockout either.

other than that, i dont recall seeing him getting seriously hurt in any fights.

i love how you goons shit on margarito's win over cintron when many actually picked Cintron to win the fight. if margarito sucked so bad, how was he able to do it so easily?

why couldnt teddy reid do the same?

and yea, if you ever notice some sort of an asian trend where us asian pick on a certain fighter, i wouldnt be offended if you called it an asian thing. it was more a stereotype gathered by my recollection on your obsession w/ black guys like roy and floyd, and your biased dismissal of a mexican fighter in margarito.

hey, don't be so naive. stereotypes do exist you know.

 

dsimon writes:

You calling something ridiculous? :: There are people, I include myself in this category who think that Baldimore is as good as Margarito. No slight on Margarito, I think Baldimore is solid.

 

....i'll hop on.....amongst others, the Daniel Santos fight proved to me that Margarito wasn't much more than a good titlist, certainly not an elite or potential elite fighter

 

Okay, here's a couple questions that can help establish how good you think Baldomir is in comparison with Margarito.

Do you think Baldomir can win 5 rounds on any judges scorecard in a fight against Williams?

Do you think Margarito would get swept on any judges scorecard in a fight against Mayweather?

 

Well then, seeing as how the rest of the Fraud groupies are picking out Margarito's losses,..you've got alot of work to do trying to explain all Baldomir's...all 9 or 10 of them,.. was that because Baldomir fought extraordinary competition?..:nono: Dsimon please,.. this thread is already wayyyy overdone..

 

It's a bit taboo, but unfortunately, I have to agree with you,..I think primitive 'racial symbolism' definitely plays a factor, I think Klitschko brother fans on Eastside-boxing have the exact same ideals as the Jones to Fraud groupies, despite the probable clashes between them, they very similah mentally.

 

Baldomir won three rounds against Mayweather, but didn´t get them. That´s called reputation. To beat Mayweather you have to beat him twice. Castillo beat him once and didn´t get the decision, he only earned the respect of the judges, but couldn´t repeat his performance in the rematch. Same story as Tarver and Jones, only Tarver took it out of the judges hands in the RE.

 

dsimon writes:

Baldimore fought well against Judah and Gatti two people that would have been good fights for Margarito. I think Baldimore would pressure Williams enough to have some success... Just like slo ass Margarito did!

Yes I do think it is likely Margarito might well get swept by Mayweather. I think Baldimore made an effort to pressure Mayweather and beat on him a bit in the later rounds. He couldn't KO him and he couldn't deal with his speed and punching accuracy...I think it would be similar with Margarito.