Mayweather-Hatton Bout is Getting Close.

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  1. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    L, quit whining. It's a good fight between two undefeated champions.

    An Oscarsexual should be the last person to criticize a fighter about fighting an opponent moving up in weight.
     
  2. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Cotto has an excellent workrate. He's not quite as quick as Hatton, but he throws terrific combinations, has heavy-hands to do lots of accumulative damage, is extremely composed, and is tough himself.
     
  3. REEDsART

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    Shit,Not Only did DeLa FORCE Floyd to Move Up,but he Also WOULDN'T Let Floyd Wear his PREFERRED Gloves (Winning)...

    Neither did Baldomir...

    REED Attributes the GLOVES to THE WAY Floyd Fought Both Guys,MORE than Anything Else...When Floyd has the Winning Gloves On,he's VERY Offensive Minded...



    REED:cool:
     
  4. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Jesus christ boxing fans are a bunch of fucking idiots. now Floyd is going to be criticized for fighting Hatton? An undefeated 2 division titleist:doh: Coming off of the 2nd biggest win of his career. There's just no hope for boxing fans, a bunch of retards.
     
  5. Double L

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    WTF does ODH have to do with this? he's earned the right to do WTF he wants. leave him out of this. he doesn't belong in the same conversation as PBF.
     
  6. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I don't have a problem with this fight. :rolleyes: But here we go with this fucken "Hatton's a tougher fight than Margarito" horseshit,.. Margarito is alot harder to budge, or hurt, he's physically alot stronger,...and he punches twice as hard as Hatton,...it's definitely one of those fights where Fraud would be flustered, with hurt hands,... and unlike De La Hoya,..Margarito's got plenty of gas in the tank, and only gets stronger as the fight commences.

    :rolleyes: We all know Fraud wont fight Margarito,..so just let it ride groupies,..there's no need to feel threatenned anymore...Fraud declined.
     
  7. Andrew

    Andrew "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fuck off with that bullshit. I dont know why anyone even bothers to discuss boxing with you.
     
  8. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    FLOYD LOOKED SHIT BECAUSE OF THE GLOVES.....AND, IN OTHER NEWS JUST IN, JOPPY LOST BECAUSE OF THE RING
     
  9. Double L

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    yeah right. and Baldomir's a tougher fight than Margarito too, right?
     
  10. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    Okay....

    Consider this carefully:

    Cotto is an EXCELLENT fighter, but picture him in the ring with Floyd.

    Floyd, knowing that Cotto has heavy hands and murderous body punches, will stay moving and boxing and potshotting. Cotto is a guy that is a patient stalker..somewhat like a Joe Louis or a Felix Trinidad. He doesn't wste too many punches. Also he's not a grappler or a wrestler or a particularly dirty fighter. Also Cotto CAN be hurt and as such wouldn't gamble too much after getting nailed a few times by Floyd's sneaky lead right hand and quick lead left hook (which is as fast a most fighter's jabs)

    So what does this mean?

    It means that Floyd would dictate the pace of the fight, hardly get cornered..and win a clear decision.


    Against Hatton however..Floyd would have to deal with speedy volume punching from an Anglo Saxon that doesn't give a fuck. Hatton will grapple and wrestle Floyd and do whatever it takes to make him stationary so that he can throw combinations etc. Hatton doesn't seem to get hurt either so he wouldn't be easily discouraged by Floyd's hooks and crosses.

    Hatton is a much tougher fight for Floyd.

    When will you guys start listening to my logic and learn something? I'm giving you this expertize for free and you're not appreciating it. :cool:
     
  11. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Judah's low blow on Floyd was pretty vicious. It was an uppercut to the groin, which pushes the protective cup upwards. I thought that was even worse than Hatton's low blow on Tszyu, which was pretty bad itself.

    Hopefully Roger won't be an idiot and pull a Lou Duva again. Of course, at least Lou went after Roger AFTER the fight ended.
     
  12. Double L

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    yes. we want PBF to take a fight he can't win. and he won't take it. it's frustrating. sorry.
     
  13. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    According to you..FOR THE THREE YEARS PRIOR TO THE BOUT...the De La Hoya fight was a fight he couldn't win. YET..he won.

    Oscar is a much harder fight, for ANYONE, than Margarito or even Cotto. Don't kid yourself.

    34 isn't that old, not in today's game. Oscar is still pretty close to his prime.
     
  14. REEDsART

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    BULLSHIT...

    NO Fighter EVER Earns the Right to Do what they Want...That INCLUDES DeLa...NO Fighter is BIGGER than the Sport,but it Sounds Like YOU'RE Affording DeLa that Luxury...

    The Fact that U're RELUCTANT To Address DeLa's Role N All of this Fuuuuurther ACCENTUATES YOUR HYPOCRISY...

    He's Inserted HIMSELF N 2 the Negotiations,Only AFTER it Became KNOWN that Floyd & Hatton were Negotiating 1st:rolleyes: ...That Shit is GAY...DeLa WOULDN'T have Given a Shit about Hatton if NOT for Floyd Trying to Fight him...

    DeLa's Trying to PUT Hatton ON THE SHELF til 2008,whereas Floyd is Trying to Fight him 3 Months from Now...

    Which is BETTER for the IMMEDIATE Future of Boxing???...



    REED:cool:
     
  15. Double L

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    why don't you fk off bitch? what exactly are you objecting to anyways? my claim that whereas ODH is beyond reproach at this point regarding opponent selection, PBF is not? how can you not agree with this?

    REED is talking like whatever ODH does at this point is good enough for PBF. that's B.S. ODH is in the twilight of his career and has taken on the very best time and time again.
     
  16. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I completely agree. The real bitch in this story is DLH. What the fuck is he talking about?
     
  17. REEDsART

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    MargariteWHO???...

    Floyd would 1st Need PARENTAL CONSENT from Paul Williams to Face MargariteWHO,Wouldn't he???...


    REED:dunno:
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Who is this "we" stuff? People bitched and bitched because Floyd didn't fight hatton. Well now Hatton is coming off his 2nd biggest win and idiots still want to complain? Like I said, that's stupid. Anyone with that outlook is also stupid.
     
  19. Trplsec

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    Simply put:

    Hatton-Mayweather is the absolute best possible fight from 140-154 pounds right now.

    Regardless of Cotto or Williams or Mosely, Floyd versus Ricky is hands down the biggest fight..

    Anything that speaks or acts counter to that statement is bullshit postering..
     
  20. slystaff

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    As REED correctly implied, "MargariteWHO" is irrelevant for Floyd now. He just got beat up.

    Hatton IS the big fish (besides Floyd) in the Welterweight divisions at the moment. Hatton has impressive wins over Tszyu and Castillo and is undefeated.
     
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    Amen to that! It's a pleasure to see that intelligence still exists on this site.:bears:
     
  22. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    dlh wants to fight hatton too :dunno:
     
  23. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No way in the world,..NO WAY...was that worse,... Hatton actually took a RUN UP for his, twisted his torso and shoulder, and put all his might into it,..and when it landed you heard this echoing great THUMPPPPPP and the sound of a cup breaking,...it was sick...:nono: watch it again,.. all Judah did was a quick little slot..he never took no run up, or put his whole body behind it like Hatton did,..as I said,..a low blow with the power and intentions of Hatton's on Tszyu,..is worthy of immediate disqualification.
     
  24. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That's a fight I really look forward to, I can't believe some people bitch about that when they were the same persons that were bitching when Floyd didn't fight Hatton at 140. Also, Floyd doesn't take Hatton after his worst performance, no, he takes him right after what's arguably his best performance to date. I don't like Floyd, but he's doing the right thing here. DLH is a bitch though, he has nothing to do in the ring with Hatton. I can't believe some people try to defend that and in the same breath bitch Floyd for fighting Hatton.
     
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    cotto and shane are harder fights, hatton wont win a round
     
  26. Double L

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    and yet we both know that Hatton wouldn't have a prayer against Margarito, Cotto or Williams. how do you reconcile this?
     
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    REED please dont repeat that glove excuse again
     
  28. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You're nuts dude, Hatton is deceptively fast on his feet and is a very good body puncher, probably the best in the business. His wrestling tactics will also give Floyd a hard time. If Baldomir could win 2-3 rounds against Mayweather, there's no doubt in my mind that Hatton will too.
     
  29. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Why would Cotto suddenly become cautious or take less risks after tasting a couple of Mayweather counters?

    Judah's uppercut counter is harder than any punch in Floyd's arsenal, he hurt Cotto on a couple of occassions, but Cotto recovered and just kept coming.

    I've considered that Cotto is much more methodical and patient than Hatton, but that doesn't mean that Floyd can just potshot and move and have an easy time with him. Cotto is patient and methodical...well so was J.C. Chavez. Cotto may not be a Chavez, but he's an aggressive, active fighter who throws very good punches in combination, is very difficult to fluster or frustrate (unless you foul him repeatedly like Urkal).

    Furthermore, Floyd's conservative approach in his last couple of fights may also be cause for concern. He's always been someone who adjusts to his opponent's style, but still, he was pretty conservative against the light-hitting Baldomir, and as FTA said, it was like he was scared to committ against DLH (in the richest prize fight in history), and that has to make you wonder if he has that approach against the younger, hungrier fighters.
     
  30. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    BTW- if I recall, you said "Floyd mayweather can't possibly beat ODLH". In all honesty I don't even think you are a boxing fan.
     

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