If Baldomir was in his prime against Forrest, would the result be different?

Now, let's say for a minute that the Baldomir Forrest thought was Baldomir of old.....the guy who smashed through guys like Judah, Clottey, Gatti etc......would the result of his fight with Forrest be different and why?

 

I think so.

Forrest has been at the top of his game for a while now, whereas Baldomir basically came out of retirement for this fight.

If this fight took place 10-12 months ago, Baldomir by KO.

 

I dont remember Bumlomir smashing through Zab. I remember him outfighting an ill-prepared, unfocused Zab. And Gatti? Plenty of welterweights would fuck up Gatti. Forrest is more past his prime than Bumlomir is. The pre-Mayorga Forrest woulda kicked Bumlomir's ass worse than he did last night.

 

Perhaps you should rewatch the fight again, then?

Right....they WOULD :nono: Well, one of the best Euro welters actually tried.....Damgaard's ass was beaten so bad, the entire Danish or Irish or whatever nation he's from, is still reeling from pain.....

How so? Baldomir is clearly past his prime, after what Floyd has done to him.

The pre-Mayorga Forrest would brawl more and got his ass beat, if he was in there with prime Tata.

 

LOL I aint even responding, its clear your jesting.::

 

how many punches would Mayweather have thrown against a prime Baldomir?

he threw about 30 per round against this version....i'd say about 20 per round
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you're a fucking idiot - baldomir said himself he felt stronger for this fight than he did the mayweather fight.

 

easy question...


NO!


Forrest hasl always had a better pedigree than Baldomir. He's always been better than Carlos. Period...

 

dsimon writes:

LOL Double caling someone else and idiot and being correct. ::

We should have a Dimpimel Versus Double L thread and the winner at any particular point in time gets one fluid once of credability.::

 

ha ha ha. ha ha ha. you funny man.

 

exactly

imagine if Mayweather was fighting this much stronger and motivated Baldomir :eeeek: he would never set his feet for a single punch to be thrown

the Forrest fight was a crossroads make or break fight for Baldo so he was extremely motivated and ferocious against Mayweather he just came in to collect a paycheck :shit:
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Why do people seriously try to debate with dym?

 

Judah is a mental midget, Clottey had victory stolen from him, and Gatti was way past his prime and best weight.

Baldomir was, is, and always will be a bum.

 

Baldomir is a very good fighter. He's not great, but he's good. Thats why he was able to beat Gatti and Judah. I never got to see the Clottey fight, so I won't comment on that. Forrest is just far more talented and skilled than Carlos, at every stage of their careers.

 

Judah is the best victory of Zoo's career, for example.....

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The way Tyson had his victory over Holyfield stolen from him? ::

So was Baldomir.

He does have a better resume, then, say, Margarito....

 

Who cares about all that really? I mean maybe some Tszyu nuthugger might but I don't care who he ever beat. He's a damn quitter like Naseem Hamed.

Tyson got stright up beat up by Holy, unlike Clottey in the Baldomir fight.

Baldomir is in his prime if he ever had one. At what point in time was his prime if this isn't it? ::

Margarito was never mentioned here and I'd still pick him to beat Baldomir. Just like I picked the more skilled Forrest to beat Baldomir while morons were picking Baldomir.

 

Has Naseem Hamed ever quit in the fight?

Clottey, like Tyson, was unable to handle the pressure and capitulated.Very similar to Baldomir-Clottey.

No, not after he lost to PBF

He was in his prime for 10 years, from 1996 to 2006, when he went on to have an undefeated streak, smashing guys like Clottey, Judah, Gatti, etc, up until after Floyd Mayweather shut him out over 12 one-sided rounds

You might have missed it, but I mentioned him.

And I'd still pick him to lose to Baldomir

 

Yes, Naseem went a step further and just quit boxing, so he's more like Tito than he is like Tszyu. ::

 

I respectfully disagree.
Hamed did quit boxing, but he did not quit in the ring.
Zoo quit boxing, as well as quit in the ring. Big difference there.

 

hamed was outboxed silly and lost a decision. tszyu had a grueling yet competitive fight and ended up quitting due to exhaustion. two completely different scenarios.

tszyu was also 35 going on 36 and was coming off multiple injuries while hamed, although diminished in skills, was only 27 or 28.

i cant believe you goons are still calling tszyu a quitter.

 

Hamed was clearly outboxed.....but it was a 115-113 kind of fight...

He ended up quitting due to lack of heart and facing soft competition all throughout his career.....Think about it.....Zoo's biggest victory is that over Judah.......well, Baldomir defeated Judah as well....how ironic, isn't it?

Hamed faced a level of competition heads and shoulder above that of Zoo.....The tough opponents he faced, made Hamed older then his age was.....Zoo, on the other hand, faced softies throughout his career....That made him younger then he really was....

 

I'm just messing with dymipeple. I'm sure hes 100% serious though.

 

well you're entitled to your own opinion, but I think Tszyu's overall competition was very good. he never faced a great fighter in his prime, but he fought and beat a lot of good ones.

barrera/hamed was more like 115-112 because of the point deduction. there's no way hamed won more than 4 rounds at best. not a competitive fight.

as for hamed's comeptition, they were mostly hand picked. what great fighter has hamed beaten? zero.

 

If the best fighter you've ever beaten is Zab Judah, that's pretty sad, isn't it?

It was more 115-113......

So was Zoo's competition. Think about it.....
he fights Hurtado.... after Hurtado is brutally KOed by Pernell Whitaker
he fights Mitchell....after Mitchell is brutally KOed by Stevie Jonston and Leavander Johnson.....
he fights Roger Mayweather....after Roger is brutally KOed by Rocky Lockridge
he fights Leija............ after Leija is brutally KOed by ODLH and Mosley
he fights Jake Rodriguez............ after Rodriguez is brutally KOed by about 5-6 fighters you never heard of....
he fights Ruelas......after Ruelas is brutally KOed by ODLH
he fights Calving Grove......after Grove is brutally KOed by Manfredy, Gatti, etc
he fights Mas......after Mas is brutally KOed by Hernandez
he fights Philips.....after Philips is brutally KOed by Jones

Notice a pattern here? That's the definition of hand-picking opposition...

what great fighter has zoo beaten? zero.

 

if you think it was 115-113, i would assume you thought hamed won 5 rounds? that would make it 114-113 on the official card.

as for tszyu, i guess all of those who had him in their top 5 p4p were fools.

you make it sound like you have to have a resume of roberto duran to be considered an elite fighter.

anyone can negatively breakdown a fighter's career and his competition as you did. just admit, you dont like tszyu.

 

No, Hamed won 4 rounds, one round was equal, and Barrera had a point deducted.....in other words, 115-113.....

Top 5?? The guy who refused to face all the best guys around him (ODLH, Mosley, Tito, Quartey, Whitaker, PBF, etc) and got beaten into submission by Vince Philips?
Who, in their right mind, would have him in their top-5??

Not at all.....but at least attempting to beat a ODLH, or a Mosley, or a Whitaker counts for something....well, the fraud never even attempted anything of the sort....Why would he want to face a monster like ODLH, when he could safely lose to guys like Philips and struggle with Urkals?

Don't like him? That's a lie. I despise that fraud. Which, however, in no way, detracts from my objectivity on the matter.

 

did you not watch boxing like 2 years ago?

and yea, he avoided shane, floyd, and oscar as if they ever called him out.

shane bypassed 140 just to fight oscar. floyd fought gatti at 140 but to this day admits that tszyu is truly a great fighter.

your objectivity doesnt count for shit.

 

he fights Hernandez.... after Hernandez is stopped by ODH
he fights Castillo....after Castillo is brutally KOed by Jaregui and Soto and .....
he fights C. Hernandez....after Hernandez is schooled by G. Hernandez
he fights Vargas............ after Vargas loses to C. Hernandez, Molina and Kelley
he fights Gatti......after Gatti is brutally KOed by Manfredy, ODH
he fights Judah.....after Judah is brutally KOed by Tszyu, beaten by Spinks, and lost to Baldomir
he fights Baldmoir......after he loses to Cortes

so...what is your point?

 

Well, Tszyu may not have been a champion during a great era, but he did unify the division in one year.

 

It's easy to see my point, if you were careful.........PBF beat great fighters, who might have lost once or twice before.......Zoo beat bums who lost once or twice......