Bernard Hopkins vs Mike McCallum, P4P or otherwise..

Can the PROVEN GREAT Bernard Hopkins have a chance to beat one of Mythical Matchups most invincible fighters?

Answer:

Hell yes. Not only does he have a chance to win, but he whups that ass 10 times out of 10.

McCallum was a great fighter, but he couldn't have beaten Hopkins.

 

hopkins beats every middleweight from the 90s including toney, mccallum, mcclellan, nunn and even super middles like eubank, liles, collins, and benn.

only roy beats hopkins.

 

:bears:

 

McCallum's work rate, solid body punching and technical perfection would carry him to an exciting UD against Hopkins...

McCallum fought on even terms with James Toney at MW when the Body Snatcher was 35 years old.. In his prime he could have presented all kinds of problems for any version of Hopkins.

 

I disagree. McCallum, like his archrival Toney, had trouble with fighters who presented good footspeed and lots of movements, like Hopkins.

He was able to break a lot of this man down to the body and slow them down to either come strong at the end and win a decision or simply stop them. But that's not happening with B-Hop in there. Hopkins wasn't a softie you could just breakdown to the body, he will be moving and faking, but also administering plenty of punishment to win a close but comfortable UD.

 

I agree that Hopkins might lose this fight.

Also I think McCallum was like 40 years old Vs Toney.

 

Its arguable whether he would've beaten Toney or Nunn. Either one of those guys at thier primes could have very well beaten Hop.

He probably beats McCallum though, but it'd be a damn close fight. McCallum is no fuckin Tito.

 

Amen. Hopkins eeks out a razor thin fight @ 160, if only because he's the bigger man. It'd be fucking close though.

 

I agree that Nunn and Toney could have possibly beaten Hopkins. I'd pick Hopkins in a close one over Toney and Nunn in a close one over Hopkins.

 

Mike was past his best in the 90's, joony.
At their respective peaks, it will be a toss up, IMO.
Two big, strong, well conditioned professional world champions and International Boxing Hall of Famers.
A fight between the caliber of these two would have had to have been over 15 rounds.

 

I don't think Hopkins and McCallum would need 15 rounds to settle anything. It would be a close fight if it was a 3 rounder or if went 20.

I can see either guy winning, but this is one of those matchups where i don't see any advantage for either guy based upon the length of the fight.

 

I think Karl meant that a matchup of two old school pros with great conditioning and will would have to be at the old school number of rounds.

I agree.. I would love to see 13,14, and 15 between these two in their primes.

 

was mccallum past his prime when he was outboxed by Kalambay?

 

i just don't see Hopkins with any experience against an intelligent fighter, aside from Jones

i see this as a very technical fight...so where is the proof that Hopkins can compete against another clever technical fighter? :dunno:


McCallum UD
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so winky wasn't a clever technical fighter? how about john david jackson? or syd vanderpool?

 

you have a point in bringing up wright as an example, but jackson was shot and vanderpool sucks. keith holmes was better than vanderpool.

 

I don't think vanderpool is a great fighter, neither was jackson at the top of his game when Hopkins beat him, but both were technically sound fighters and both were pretty clever boxers with some ring smarts.

 

jackson at his best was a very good fighter. he was done by the time Hopkins fought him.

vanderpool has zero significant wins in his career. you can say he got a decision against johnson, but that was anything but decisive.

 

even better question...what technically DECENT fighter HIS SIZE did Hopkins ever fight aside from Jones?

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no idea why people are picking Hopkins so confidentally when there's no proof he can hang with a genius........especially if this match up is p4p
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at age 42, he beat winky. winky's one of the superior technicians of today's generation.

tarver wasn't a bad boxer himself. prior to his KO win over harding, he was known more as a boxer than a puncher and had his great credentials as an amateur.

what great technician has mccallum beaten? I thought toney beat him 3 out of 3.

 

Winky is average, and a much smaller fighter........Tarver is horrible


McCallum had 2 close fights with Toney and even fought him to a draw
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like i said, i thought toney won 3 out of 3, but i do admit, they were close fights. the 3rd one doesnt count really.

toney is one of the most inconsistent performers at a high level. hopkins would've boxed his ears off from the outside. too bad toney got fat and the fight never took place.

you're entitled to your own opinion, but calling winky average seems a bit teenybopperish if you ask me. ::

 

why? cos he boxed Tito's ears off?

if Hopkins ever fought well against a decent technical fighter his size it'd be a different story, but he hasn't
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Kalambay outboxed McCallum with ease.

 

teenybopperish is jumping on the bandwagon of suddenly calling Winky a brilliant technical fighter because he beat Mosley at 154 and old man Tito
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Kalambay did, yes

what awesome guys his size did Hopkins ever outbox again?
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Who knows what you think an "awesome guy" is though. Mike McCallum @ 160 was nothing close to awesome.

 

exactly. i brought that up earlier. mccallum at 160 was hard to beat, yet beatable.

 

McCallum at 160 was the same guy he was at 154, at least up until about the Watson fight.Trouble for him was he was fighting better opposition so he looked worse.

 

Even better better question: When did Jones ever prove himself to be a technically smart fighter? The guy was as unorthodox as they came, broke technical guidelines and won fights off of his brilliant speed and athleticism and not ring smarts. Anyone disagree with this, just point to an instance where he proved his ring smarts.

I'm not saying RJJ wasn't a great fighter, but I wouldn't put him in the same category as a guy like B-Hops or Floyd when it comes to ring smarts, in fact I wouldn't even bring him up.