Margarito/Judah possible by the end os the year, Thoughts?

How many times does this guy have to prove to ya'll that's he's much more mental midget than talented guy with a shot? He's already peaked in the Spinks fights and you'll never see him fight that well again. He's done. He needs to do like Mosley, go back fight some no hopers and get back the confidence he lost to Baldy, Floyd and Cotto. Just the thought of what he went through against Cotto will make him freeze up again. He's now a name, a gate keeper and nothing more.

 

Your kidding? Rivedra had zero chance! Let's not start underestimating Zab. :nono:

 

he was able to beat stinks because he was faster and hit much harder. plus spinks is not a pressure fighter and had zero pop. i heard stinks had hardtime making weight for that fight, which might have been proven to be true considering his success at 154 and 160 (although he lost to taylor).

only decent guy at 147 that i would favor zab to beat is probably collazo, who somewhat falls under the same category as stinks, but not as slick or well schooled.

 

I don't even care about weights.....All I care about is that Gatti, a C- fighter at best, has achieved more titles and more quality wins than Sharmba Mitchell, the 2-nd best fighter Zoo's ever beaten (the best fighter Zoo's ever beaten is Judah, which is pretty sad in itself)

 

This is a great fight!!:cheer:

The HW's should take note of the WW's, the best are fighting the best

Zab could win this fight. But he won't. He won't fight smart, he won't stick to a gameplan. He will be enticed to bang and mix it up and as we all know, the chin will get checked.

margarito by KO 8.

 

Considering a prime Baldomir could only edge out a razor thin decision against Zab i wonder if dymipepel would agree to rank a shot Margarito (Williams landing a 1000 punches almost certainly ruined him) over baldomir if he knocks Zab out. ::

 

There was nothing razor-thin about it.....Clear-cut decision victory for Baldomir....And since you're wrong at the very beginning of your argument, the rest of your argument just doesn't make sense.

 

Mitchell would handle Gatti so would most everone on Tszyu's resume. ::

Gatti sucks.

 

7-5 at best... but i knew u would have none of that... ::

 

Would? That's why they have fights, to find out what would happen.

Gatti has victories over Leija, Dorin, Ruelas, Millet, Patterson, Grove, Ruelas (all world champions)
Mitchell has victories over Philips and Rahilou (world champions).
Simply put, Gatti HAS a resume superior to that of Sharmba, and none of your "but Mitchell would handle Gatti" whining won't change that.
Because I say, Gatti would handle Mitchell., and what are you going to do?....
And since these two never met in the ring, all we can go by in determining who's better, is to compare their resume's.....And Gatti's shits on Mitchell's...big time....
As to your most everone on Tszyu's resume would handle Gatti, crap......Leija (one of the most important names on Zoo's resume) didn't handle Gatti too well, did he?

 

8-4, at worst.....

 

Which is exactly why Floyd should have faced Margarito.

 

Right....as opposed to taking on much more superior and proven fighters like ODLH, Baldomir, and Hatton...
So, do you still sticking to your claim that "Mitchell WOULD handle Gatti, as most other names on Zoo's resume"?
Or did that little comparison between Gatti's accomplishments and Mitchell's made you change your mind? Kinda shits on your argument, doesn't it?
How do you explain the fact that one guy one Zoo's resume who actually did fight Gatti, got brutally KOed? Kinda shits on your argument, doesn't it?

 

So Margarito, after losing his last fight is supposed to get back to contention by beating a guy who has lost his last 3 fights, 2 of them being beatdowns? I don't really have interest in this fight, Zab's days as a contender are gone.

 

Gatti sucks, I've never said anything different. A lot of guys would beat him, he's just not good. I don't care what paper titles he held or what paper champions he beat.

 

You stated that most guys on Zoo's resume WOULD beat Gatti.
Well, guess what? I just realized that Zoo and Gatti share not just 1, but 2 common opponents. Gatti stopped both of the guys, as did Zoo.
Do you still stick to your pathetic "most guys on Zoo's resume WOULD beat Gatti." argument? Because Gatti is 2-0 (2KO) with those guys on Zoo's resume....how do you like 'em apples?
And Gatti has beaten a higher level of opposition than Mitchell ever had.....how do you like 'em apples?

 

A win over Margarito would be much better for his career, than a win over Baldomir.

 

A win over former fringe contender is better than a win over former undisputed, recognized, true, linear welterweight champion of the world?
Right.....

 

Margarito is a much higher rated fighter than Baldomir. Especially at this point, with Baldomir just about getting shutout by a 35 year old Forrest. Margarito also lost his last fight, but it was a competitive, close diecision loss against a 25 year old prime fighter.

A win over Margarito would be better for his resume than a win over Baldomir.

 

Based on what?

 

why are you being so difficult?

Margarito is better than Baldomir because, first of all, he is simply a better fighter, and also because he has beaten the better opposition than Carlos, and he has been a top welterweight for years, unlike Baldomir, who was an obscure fighter before one win over Zab Judah, the most overrated fighter of the past 10 years.

 

oh bullshit he was winning that fight hands down before he got caught then froze. Excuses about Judah are about as weak as his heart

 

and at the same time stop hugging on to his sack like he pays you

 

you have to understand, Zab is Cotto's best ever win, so you shouldn't be too hard on Hex. :clap:

 

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Once again, why is he "simply" better? His accomplishments certainly don't indicate that

Like who? Like Clottey, who Baldomir already beaten into submission? Say, has Margarito ever defeated a true, linear, undisputed, universally recognized, absolute champion of the world, like Carlos has? That's right, I didn't think so.

 

I'm not saying that he is more accomplished, but he is a better fighter, as in if they would fight each other, Margarito would tear him a new one.

Baldomir beat Clottey by disqualification (not submission, this isn't mma :dunno: ) and Judah.

Margarito's best wins are Diaz, Cintron, 6 Heads Lewis and Clottey (by decision).

And being the former linear champion doesen't make Baldomir a better fighter than Margarito. If Judah beat Baldomir no one would give a shit, as he already lost to him when it mattered, if he beat Margarito, he'd be a contender again. That's really the only point that I'm trying to make.

 

Margarito would fuck Zab up. Judah is finished!

 

Margarito will beat him up badly....probably worst than Cotto did....

 

You state it as a fact?
Well, then I state that if they ever met, Baldomir would tear Margarito a new one, therefore, he's a better fighter.

No, but it does make him more accomplished.