lookin forward to seeing Celestine fight - but isn't Lacierva shot?

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  1. Double L

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    it's cool that Celestine is fighting on Showtime tomorrow night. i still haven't seen him fight, but it sounds like he's a beast in there. but isn't his opponent completely shot? and if so, why the fk is he fighting him?

    does anyone think Celestine could beat either Marquez or Vazquez?
     
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    It's a showcase for Caballero. He's fought good enough fighters that he is entitled to 1 anyways.
     
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    a showcase is one thing, but when you KO your opponent in the 2nd round after hurting him in the first, and the opponent hasn't had a meaningful win in years, i think it does more harm than good for a fighter's reputation.

    plus, it's a chance to make a statement, which he certainly does NOT stand to do against the likes of Lacierva. the winner of Marquez/Vazquez can justifiably ignore Caballero if he so chooses, whereas if he took on and beat someone tough, there'd be no denying him.

    oh well. i just hope it goes more than 4 rounds.
     
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    Caballero already has earned a shot at the winner by beating the Thai champ, Ricardo Castillo,Ponce De Leon and demolishing Valbuena (who Vasquez struggled with). This fight is purely meant as a showcase for Caballero to look good and fight marquez if he wins. There is no other fighter at 122 who deserves it more.
     
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    you think Marquez will fight him? what about Vazquez if he wins?

    i'd forgotten that he beat De Leon.
     
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    If Vasquez wins there will probably be a 3rd fight with Marquez. If Marquez wins he needs someone else to fight and Caballero makes sense.
     
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    I agree that Caballero's deserving, but I wonder if this fight ending up on Showtime has more to do with Lacierva being a Gary Shaw fighter.

    Caballero isn't exactly a marketable fighter, so I wouldn't be surprised if Shaw would prefer to put Marquez in with next week's winner, instead.
     
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    Is Caballero really 5'11? Holy fuck, he must be the tallest 122 pounder ever.

    He is fighting someone that's 5'4 :lol:

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    Do Shaw and ODLH work together? Shaw and ODLH probably not on the friendliest of terms after ODLH tried to steal Corrales when he was still signed with Shaw. I believe there was a lawsuit or some shit to. I see Marquez-Caballero if Marquez wins.
     
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    Isn't Vazquez co-promoted by Golden Boy Promotions (and Sycuan)?
     
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    Apparently so going by the Golden Boy website. I thought he had left them. Caballero is with Sycuan as well I believe.
     

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