LEAST deserving of the title, Pound for Pound #1, HISTORY!

Dude...Margarito wasn't THE perceived threat at Welterweight, but Oscar WAS the perceived threat at 154lbs because Ouma and Wright were no longer there.

Floyd missed Hatton at 140, but that's it compadre!

 

False Alydar. Tszyu and Hatton were the biggest threats at 140, and he didn't fight them. Margarito and Mosley were the biggest threats at 147, and he didn't fight either of them. Oscar coming off a gift to Sturm, TKO loss to hopkins and beating Mayorga would not make him the biggest threat at 154.

I'm not saying those fights should've happened, because IMO Floyd has been right to go after Baldomir and Judah and Oscar, but its fair to say he hasn't taken on the biggest threat since Castillo.

 

Margarito was (and still is) more of a perceived threat than Baldomir.

He just wasn't the true champion there.

 

:nono: Baldomir is not a threat fullstop,..FULLSTOP,... he's a small welterweight, with no speed, power, stamina, or skills, and he's 40 years of age,..with 10 losses to his credit...:laughing: and Fraud fans want to fight about it?.

 

Well that's the point. Floyd fought THE CHAMPION and so shouldn't be crticized. Soon after that he went up and fought De La Hoya was was ALWAYS perceived as a bigger threat than Margarito.

The point is..this "Floyd ducked Margarito" shit is ludicrous and needs to stop.

 

dsimon writes:

That is absurd. Joppey was the Mayorga of his generation... always ready to take an asswhipping from anyone with a few real skills.

 

Hey don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you the rational behind the Majority of magazines giving those two guys the P4P#1 slot.

 

dsimon writes:

I know its just that people are always throwing around Joppy's name.

 

This is from The Ring's P4P poll from 1996 to 2001. The point system for votes is 15-12-9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.

1996:

10) Yuri Arbachakov (11)
9) Azumah Nelson (12)
8) Ike Quartey (21)
7) Terry Norris (28)
6) Ricardo Lopez (56)
5) Felix Trinidad (59)
4) Evander Holyfield (64)
3) Pernell Whitaker (92)
2) Oscar De La Hoya (107)
1) Roy Jones (123)

1997:

10) Johnny Tapia (18)
8) Junior Jones & Mark Johnson (22)
7) Naseem Hamed (27)
6) Pernell Whitaker (37)
5) Felix Trinidad (65)
4) Evander Holyfield (80)
3) Ricardo Lopez (83)
2) Roy Jones (117)
1) Oscar De La Hoya (123)

1998:

10) Pernell Whitaker (14)
9) Floyd Mayweather (19)
8) Ricardo Lopez (23)
7) Naseem Hamed (33)
6) Mark Johnson (45)
5) Evander Holyfield (55)
4) Shane Mosley (65)
3) Felix Trinidad (67)
2) Oscar De La Hoya (123)
1) Roy Jones (141)

1999:

10) Fernando Vargas (15)
9) Bernard Hopkins (16)
8) Erik Morales (21)
6) Ricardo Lopez & Mark Johnson (47)
4) Felix Trinidad & Shane Mosley (68)
3) Floyd Mayweather (78)
2) Oscar De La Hoya (85)
1) Roy Jones (150)

2000:

10) Lennox Lewis (31)
9) Bernard Hopkins (32)
8) Diego Corrales (33)
7) Ricardo Lopez (35)
6) Naseem Hamed (37)
5) Floyd Mayweather (39)
4) Oscar De La Hoya (43)
3) Roy Jones (109)
2) Shane Mosley (123)
1) Felix Trinidad (126)

2001:

10) Ricardo Lopez (22)
9) Lennox Lewis (23)
8) Kostya Tszyu (34)
7) Felix Trinidad (39)
6) Oscar De La Hoya (40)
5) Marco Antonio Barrera (44)
4) Floyd Mayweather (77)
3) Bernard Hopkins (98)
2) Roy Jones (108)
1) Shane Mosley (132)

 

Looks like Floyd takes the cake....and he call himself p4p king and you guys didn't buy it? :bears:

 

Not at that time Roy wasn't, because Tito and Mosley were doing the same thing Roy was only more impressively and that was beating up on B-level fighters. At least Mosley and Tito were KOing they're tomato cans and showing people they were in a different class. Roy was pitty patting and playing it safe.

Anyway my choice would be ODLH. He was fighting the best at 147 but close fights with Quartey and Whitaker that were borderline draws isn't the stuff of p4p #1's.

 

has to be a toss up between DLH and Tito........who did they beat at the time to be considered p4p#1 back then? each other? :notallthere:

at least Mosley had an impressive DLH victory at the time when he was #1
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Close call between Oscar & Shane.

What's crazy is that Mosley was, at that time, considered unbeatable. Ah, hindsight.

Oscar earned the top rung for his victory over Whitaker (and Jones' DQ loss to Griffin). Don't think that win shoulda given him the #1 ranking.

 

Only the haters picked floyd...not anyone objective and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that one of the admins fixed the poll to reflect this, because I don't believe for one second that 14 people from this site would have picked Floyd.

hell the responses on this thread don't reflect that.

 

Yeah, Roy didn't show he was in a different class and he pitty pats :notallthere:

 

Floyd's running away with this poll.

:laughing:

 

:bears: deservedly. He's the right man for the title, no one is more deserving, no doubt.

 

toney was never better than whitaker, therefore he couldn't have gotten the #1 spot.

 

He was p4p.

 

#2 at best.

 

Tito runs him close but you gotta give it to Tyson. His resume 86-88 isn't as bad as some say but no way a less glamourus fighter from a less glamourus division beats 6 or 7 fighters of that class and winds up at No.1. He'd be hovering around 8-10 which is where Mike probably belonged.

 

everyone had tyson at #1 by 88. at the time, who remotely came close to being as good as him? holyfield at crusier?

 

There's something odd with the poll, that's for sure. I've just logged on after some fifteen hours and it says, "You have already voted in this poll".

News to me! :dunno:

 

Chavez @ lightweight.

 

You are not giving him enough credit, check the time machine....

 

toney's performances were inconsistent. when did he ever deserve the #1 ranking? when he beat prince charles?

 

When he was talked about as the p4p#1 :dunno:

When did Pea supercede him at that time :nono: Pea lacked power. p4p is taking the atributes you have and mythically matching them up in other weight classes. Toney was reigning back then, Pea lost to Oscar......if that's not inconsistant I don't know what is.....

 

dunno man, I wasnae around at the time. Chavez and whitiker were there though, McCallum was around, Azuhma Nelson, Nunn? I suppose there was a bit of a lull in the late 80s.

 

same here

 

I cannot agree. The way Tyson cleaned up and dominated boxing's best division, knocking out all but a couple and demonstrating in every fight that he was BOTh the fstest handed and the most powerful fighter P4P..he was very deserving of the Number 1 spot.