Naseem Hamed against today's top featherweights..

I know he has alot of detractors, and he was very easy to dislike. But no mistake can be made that Hamed was exciting and brought MAJOR attention to the lighter weight classes. And even considering all his flaws,..the cat could put ANYONE's lights out with one shot from either hand. And THAT, IMO,.. was his downfall. Falling in love with that KO power and forgetting that hard to solve style that Brenden Ingle showed him.

The worse thing that Hamed ever did was come to the USA. Hamed's skills and speed worked with Ingle's ways of training fighters, plus Ingle KNEW Naseem from the beginning.

And even after coming to the USA, splitting with Ingle and joining Manny Steward...and with all the flaws he started showing,..he still only lost one fight, by decision. And that was to a future HOFer.

So, after saying that..wadda ya think about these matchups..

Hamed vs Pac
Hamed vs Barerra
Hamed vs Marquez

 

He'd get his ass kicked by all 3 of em, esp Manny.

 

Manny would serve a life term for murder in the first degree.

 

JMM would dissect him, then KO him late
Barrera will do the same
Pac will KO him after being KD himself in an exciting war

 

I cannot believe this.

Barerra beat him handily. But he fought a completely different fight than anyone ever expected him to.......big divs to MAB.

The reason MAB didn't go to war with Hamed is because he probably couldn't have won like that.
And it was only ONE fight.

Nobody can say Hamed has a weak jaw, because he has never been Kayoed.

You think that a naturally larger Hamed wouldn't stand a chance against the brawling nature of Manny Pac??
Sure, I would lean towards Manny too,...but Hamed would have had a better chance style for style than anyone Pac has faced recently.

JM Marquez might outpoint Hamed.....but he wouldn't stop him

Barerra did outpoint Hamed....but he didn't stop him. And the version of MAB that night against Hamed hasn't been seen much since Marco beat naseem.

Nobody todya would blow out a priime Naseem Hamed. And I guarantee you that nobody today would just outbrawl Hamed.

 

All three beat Hamed.

 

If Hamed had never fallen in love with himself, and left Brenden Ingle...he may well have been one of the best of all times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6OODVgS22s

 

Probably. But the only one who might stop Naseem would be Manny. But all three would be in danger until the final bell. ESPECIALLY Manny.

 

Manny has been knocked out. Naseem never has. PLUS, Hamed is the larger guy who actually LIKES a shootout.

 

Let me just say this.

All three aforementioned fighters have the ability to have beaten a PRIME Naseem Hamed.

But wouldn't boxing be so much more exciting if he were here? Because even if he loses all three fights,.......unless the victor spoils the fight, it would be exciting while they lasted.

Boxing was better because of fighters like Hamed. Just like alot of other fighters made boxing better because of their presence.

 

i would love to see manny vs hamed, hamed is being a little underrated by some, that mutha fucka might not have been the best but he could bang

 

That don't mean shit, Manny has KOd much more impressive fighters than Hamed ever did, and clearly Manny has a vastly superior boxing resume.

Nice try.

 

MAB beat him....


Marquez might win a close/controversial decision....


vs. Manny..a WAR..Hamed could end it with ONE BOMB...while Pac would need to land bombs for a few rounds...before he takes out Hamed.

 

you are smart

 

wow..thanx.! :clap:

 

Whether you love or hate him,...no matter who you think he can/cannot beat.

There is no doubt that boxing would be alot more interesting with him around.:warning:

 

Oh gawd.

This guy hasn't fought in 5 years. The only people he's knocked out since then was with the use of his McLaren.

This is the shittiest thread I've seen in 6 months.

 

Hamed-Pac would be highly interesting, but if Hamhead was around today, guaranteed that he would duck the shit outta Manny. Instead he would feast on someone like Juarez, or Larios.

 

If Hamed comes back and fight, he will get knock the fuck out by either Juarez or Larios.

Hamed is done, end of story.

 

I realize this. What I meant was if he was in his PRIME today he'd be ducking the likes of Pac, and Marquez, and instead be feasting on Juarez, and Larios.

 

True.

 

nobody faces everyone out there. Should ODLH be criticized for "ducking" Jose Luis Lopez??

he didn't duck Barerra, and look what MAB did right before he signed to fight Hamed. He gave us one of the best fights ever.
I get tired of everyone saying he ducked JMM. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

But it sure as shit doesn't mean that Hamed was never tested with world class opposition.

* Manuel Medina 52-7 and at the time Hamed stopped him in 11 rounds, he was already a TWO time champion, and went on to win another world title.

* Tom Johnson 51-10 at the time and THE champion at 126. Made 13 successful defenses of his title over four years before getting blowed out by Hamed.

* Kevin Kelley who even though he had been slipping a bit, he still had only lost one fight in 50 pro bouts. 47-1-2 at the time, and he was one dangerous mother at the time. Hamed came to the US to face Kelley on his home turf, and even though Kelly had his moments, Hamed dribbled him around like a basketball.

* Wilfredo Vasquez 56-9 at the time and REIGNING WBA featherweight king. Dangerous offensive figher with power, but Hamed dropped him four times en route to taking him out with ease in seven rounds.

*Wayne Mccullough 22-1 at the time, but a former champ who had just moved up in weight but had limitless stamina and a granite jaw, and was tough along with throwing bunches of punches. No KO here, but an easy pts. win.

*Paul Ingle came in undefeated at 21-0 at the time. Tough, plucky and had some power. Hamed wins again by KO.

*Cesar Soto came in as the WBA titlist. Ugly as hell fight. Soto was a tough bastard that was hard to look good against because of his style. His style combined with Hamed's goofy style made for probably the worst fight I have ever seen. But Hamed won that handily as well.

*Vuyani Bungu was yet another reigning titlist, even if he was moving up from Jr. FEather, he was still 37-2 and had never been stopped. Hamed DESTROYED him in a highlight reel KO in the fourth.

* Augie Sanchez who is laughed about now, but at the time had only one loss and was one of the best offensive figthers in the division. Sanchez would have beaten any featherweight in ther world if he landed the shots he hit Hamed withthat night, but he wound up on a stretcher.
Hamed proved his chin and heart that night, just as he did against Kelley.....and delivered what is probably his most DEVASTATING knockout ever. That KO ruined Sanchez's career.

* MAB who just came off a fight of the decade with another future great in Morales. Barrera won the fight handily by fooling Naz AND all of us by completely fighting a tactical and intelligent fight. Nobody gave MAB a shot, because with the way he fought with Morales, and all the shots he took.....there was no way that his chin owuld hold up to Naz's.

it didn't have to. Barrera knew that as well, and kudos to him for coming up with and executing a brilliant gameplan. But he still didn't beat Naz as bad as the haters would have you think. And MAB NEVER hurt Hamed.


He finished his career with a 36-1 with 31 KO record. And idiots still say he never fought anyone, and that he sucks.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

Of course he is done....

This is a "What if", type of thread.

If Hamed hadn't let the MAB loss completely destroy his confidence, and kept on fighting.

Hamed will never come back. And if he did, he would never regain half of what he had.

 

This thread should be in mythical matchups.

 

Then why post on this thread?? Either give some objective insight on the topic,......or butt the fuck out.:flip:

 

Let's recap on Hamed's opponents from the time he became a title-holder:
Steve Robinson: (not even worthy of being called a 'bum')

Said Lawal: see, above.

Daniel Alicea: bum who dropped Hamed.

Manuel Medina: feather-fisted, but decent feather who tagged Hamed a lot (that's when folks started to say, 'imagine what Barerra would've done here' )

Remigio Molina: bum.

Tom Johnson: great featherweight, but in the same category as Pedroza when McGuigan beat him: 32 years old and on-the-slide.

Billy Hardy: Oliver Hardy.

Juan Cabrera: bum.

Jose Badillo: bum.

Kevin Kelley: on-the-slide or not? But anyway,first decent fight and everyone sees the wheels clearly come off the Hamed-Bandwagon here. If there was any doubts about Hamed's validity as a boxer - it's here.

Wilfredo Vazquez: 40 years old? Older?

Wayne McCullough: ahhhh, yes....the first of the 'you're a bantamweight-who-can't-punch-why don't-you-move-up-and-fight-me?'.

Paul Ingle: not a bum, but definately categorized as 'workmanlike'.

Cesar Soto: now I admit, this was a step in the right direction, and Hamed wasn't entirely to blame in this horrid little affair.

Vuyani Bungu: another 'you're a bantamweight-who-can't-punch-why don't-you-move-up-and-fight-me?'. (I think Simes actually jerked off after seeing this fight.)

Augie Sanchez: bum.

Guys he avoided (or rather who Warren kept him away from for whatever reasons): Hector Lizaragga, Luisito Espinosa, Junior Jones, Kennedy McKinney, Istvan Kovaks, Juan Manuel Marquez, Freddie Norwood,

Which leads us to the fight with Marco Antonio Barrera. And I bet hardly anyone remembers that his piece of shit brother, Riath, picked a matchup Barrera instead of Morales following their first war cos:
a) he thought he was the more damaged out of the two as a result, and
b) even though Morales won that fight, the Hamed Camp still went after Barerra?!?

The proof of the pudding is in the documentary, 'Big Fight, Little Prince' - if you haven't seen it and you want to know what Hamed was all about....then that's the reference point.
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And you are one of the idiots that says a guy with that kind of record, with those kinds of electrifying knockouts, with only one decision loss against a future HOFer is a bum.:laughing: :laughing:

 

Electrifying knockouts against blown-up bantamweights, feather-fists and over-the-hills?
In that case, fine - feel free to continue to overate this guy as much as you like. :dunno:

Fact of the matter is, Barrera went against his natural fighting instincts and used the most simple boxing-basics to make Hamed look pedestrian.
He pulled the cover off Hamed that night and that's why he's never been seen since.

No more clues.

 

And had Barrera fought like he usually did, he would have gotten stretched inside of five rounds. THAT is why MAB boxed

 

Come on, admit it - you're Simes, aren't you? ::