Calzaghe vs. Kessler ...Take your pick.

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Mundine has a better resume than Lacy and is a better fighter as well. it's almost comical how much this guy gets underrated. Hell, Beyer has a better resume than lacy as well although I don't know if he is better. He beat Sheika a hell of a lot easier than Lacy did though.

 

Yup...Kessler's recent stretch has (Mundine, Beyer, Andrade, even Siaca) has been admirable....

And I would definitely dare say that Kessler would dominate Lacy exactly the same way Calzaghe did...and so would Mundine, for starters.

Overall, I can see the argument that Calzaghe's resume is better than Kessler's. That is simply true; overall.

But recently, Kessler has been fighting top guys in the division...and beating them in dominating fashion.

Peace.

 

I'ma go with Calslappy in this one. Haven't seen much of Kessler. Just don't know who he has faced to prepare him for all the slaps he's gonna receive. Who's the best fighter he's faced? I'll Holla 5000

 

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Kessler has fought better recent opposition than Calzaghe and it's not even close. Overall Calzaghe has been around a lot longer so he might have an edge in competition but not by much. Seriously, neither guy has a big enough edge in competition that it will matter in this fight. Kessler is not like Lacy, he's fought a hell of a lot better guys to prepare him for this. not to mention he is just better than lacy.

 

In other words, bigdawg - get off your lazy ass and go buy some boxing DVDs.

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In other words Donny why don't you hook me up with some boxing DVD's and stop being a cheap bastard! I'll Holla 5000

 

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:: I can understand only seeing him once since that's all he's been on American TV. However, judging a fighter off that 1 fight and then saying who has he fought is kinda stupid. Beyer is a prick to fight and so is Mundine. Both top 5 guys when Kessler beat them. Not to mention I haven't seen kessler decisively lose a round his whole career except the Mundine fight where he lost a few. Calzaghe's close call with Robin Reid way back when is closer to losing than kessler ever has been.

 

Calzaghe by one sided UD

I can see this fight being similar to the Hopkins vs Wright fight except better and for the record I consider Calzaghe Hopkins and Kessler as Wright.

 

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No way Calzaghe wins a 1 sided fight. Kessler's right hand is made to land on Calzaghe. I haven't really been impressed with Calzaghe for a while. He got way overrated off the Lacy fight.

 

Send me some free Sparklebar first. ::

 

I don't know. I just think that Calslappy is used to fighting on a big stage. He's been with the so-called best and was able to make that shit look like a sparring session. To me Kessler has way too many questions that needs to be anwsered. Does he know how to change fight plans. What will he do when things don't go his way? How will he react to speed and if he gets hurt. These are legit questions. I'll Holla 5000

 

First off it's Sparkebar. I can send you some osmosis water. I'll Holla 5000

 

He reacts to speed just fine. Mundine is quicker than Calzaghe and hits just as hard I think. Not as strong or as sturdy but Kessler has proven he can beat a guy faster than himself in Mundine who since then has 2 dominating wins over Soliman and Danny Green. Does he know how to change fight plans? He don't need to. his skills are good enough he can box or if need be he can be agressive as well. Calzaghe didn;t look great in his last couple fights BTW. Might be starting to show some of his age, not to mention he is injury prone.

 

I guess I went overboard with that one but still I see this being an ugly and dirty fight in Calzaghe's favor and Kessler won't be able to do anything about it,for some reason I see Calzaghe bring alot more in this match than Kessler who in comparison looks one demensional.

 

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1 dimensional in what way? Because he prefers to use his skills and box? That's a pretty good dimension. He can however be agressive when need be though. Calling Kessler 1 dimensional is not really correct.

 

Agreed.

I think people probably mean methodical, which is the better word....but in terms of being able to box or "brawl" and being able to dial up the gears -- Kessler can do that if need be, seems to be.

But he's always dictated the pace behind a very strong jab and excellent movement...because it's worked every time. When he's gotten pressured or bullied...it's just created more opportunity for him to get his hands in effectively.

It's a great fight.

Peace.

 

I said compared to Calzaghe.

 

Calzaghe's the one who's shown the inability to adapt to certain styles, he's struggled or slopped it out in gruellers against fucken scrubs,...Kessler has barely lost a round in his career, and thats amazing considering he fought a stinker like Mundine who's armed with that fucken shoulder roll ducking his head below belt level shit, in his HOME TOWN on PPV..:eeeek:

 

dsimon writes:

If Kessler is going to win this fight he has to have a plan to do more than dictate the pace. I think he could easily have a respectable outing and go tit for tat with Calzighe all night. The real test for Kessler is if he can show he is measurably better than Calzighe and that is a problem.

Otherwise the judges will give the fight to Calzighe.

 

You are right.

But with Joe's age and longevity...everyone eventually gets beat no matter what.
And Kessler might be the most skilled opponent that Joe has had to face in over a decade.

I think that Kessler is too NOW, and that he will show that he is better measurably to the point that everyone, including the judges,...will reflect.

This Kessler kid has tons of potential. And he is just 28 years old.

 

Yeah, I think youth is certainly an advantage for Kessler, especially because I think Calzaghe will have to adapt to him more than the other way around.

It's up to Calzaghe to shorten the distance in this fight, because he cannot rely on his jab and straight left from the outside....he has to continually get in, get off and then get out against Kessler. We'll see how well he does that at 35.

 

Calzaghe will win by UD.

 

dsimon writes:

Its a factor for the reasons you and Mitchell say. One thing to also consider is that Joe has not taken a lot of abuse in the ring so he is intact. I mean his hands get banged up and like Floyd I have a feeling that when he eventually gets beat his hands being injured will be a factor. But Joe has not been in many wars so he is a young 35.

 

Sure. Don't get images of PBF-DLH in your head when I say "dictate the pace." :nono: ::

I mean - control the fight.

And yes, Kessler is also very adept at putting together combinations and finding holes - and he turns his punches over better than Calzaghe does.

He's very quick-handed....I'd say a tad slower than Calzaghe, partly because Kessler throws more correctly and doesn't "flurry" as much.

He'll hold his own in the exchanges.

It's a very intriguing fight.

Peace.

 

People are going to be surprised at how Calzaghe handles Kessler.

Calzaghe is physically and mentally stronger, and it's his turf, he has more experience, skill, faster hands, and possibly a bigger punch.

Kessler has youth on his side and big tattoos on his arms :bears:

 

how do you figure Sloppy Joe is stronger? I'm not saying he isn't, but I'm curious how you've arrived at that conclusion. If I had to guess, I'd say that Kessler is the stronger guy.

 

If hard for me to understand why you think Kessler could beat Joe like Joe beat Lacy when Kessler is so much slower of both hand and foot then Joe ? :dunno: :dunno:

 

Joe is definitely stronger. Kessler has a more impressive looking physique, and a decent punch, but his physical strength is not great.

Calzaghe does not look like much, physique wise, but he is fucking strong. He has been able to man handle every fighter he has faced, including strong guys like Eubes and Lacy.

Kessler is not exactly a weakling, Joe is just far stronger than his average physique indicates.

 

I like Calzaghe via close decision victory here in a technical fight, that heats up by the mid rounds and produces an exciting stretch run.

I like Calzaghe's faster hands and big fight experience to see him through here in a very good fight.