BROTHERS who HATE on Roy???!!!...

it's interesting you ask this question brother REED seeing how you've always had issues with phonetap's loyalty to tim duncan and all things virgin islands. african-americans are a different breed...loyalty isn't as important anymore and that's not necessarily a good thing.

 

The answer is simple.

REED has always thought of you as a virgin, not from the islands. :tease:

 

Interesting topic. On a slightly unrelated note, I think cultural, racial and nationalistic pride when favoring one boxer over another is one of the bad things about the sport. The only time I condone this sort of thing is during the olympics when it is supposed to be nationalistic.

 

100m final Burger-Eating Black Russian vs. Wodka-drinking White American

Who does REED Cheer for? :cheer:

 

this REED fella's racisim is gradually starting to unfold.

 

Just a little off topic. But since people bring up dog fighting how come they don't talk about what happens with these dogs.


Hypocrisy of Democracy my friend.

Sad thing is the actual legal sport involving dogs is MUCH worse than anything Vick is accused of.

Yet no one is calling for an end of that sport.


Dog racing is cruel and inhumane, and should be phased out. While at the racetrack, dogs live a life of constant confinement, suffer serious injuries, and are sometimes killed when they are no longer profitable.

A Life of Endless Confinement
While at the racetrack, dogs are confined in small cages barely large enough for them to stand up or turn around for long hours each day. On average, over one thousand dogs live in warehouse style kennels at each racetrack.

Dogs Suffer Serious Injuries
Thousands of dogs are seriously injured each year at commercial racetracks, including dogs that suffer broken legs, cardiac arrest, spinal cord paralysis and broken necks. Unfortunately, not all of these injuries are reported to the public because some states do not even keep records on the number of dogs injured each year.


Dogs are Killed When They are No Longer Profitable
Thousands of dogs are killed when they are injured or are no longer fast enough to be profitable. According to the pro-racing National Greyhound Association, an estimated 5,000 dogs were killed in 2003.


Dogs Are Transported in a Dangerous Manner
Because dogs typically compete at several racetracks during their career, professional haulers transport large numbers of dogs from one racetrack to another. During this process, dogs are transported in cramped conditions, and in some cases undergo cross-country trips in unventilated, aluminum trailers or rental vans. According to Care of the Racing Greyhound, an industry handbook, transportation over long distances can cause dogs to suffer from dehydration, weight variation, and exhaustion.

In recent years, there have been several media-documented cases of racing dogs dying during transport. For example, in 2003 two dogs died en route from Oregon to Oklahoma.
Economic Pressure Leads to Animal Neglect

To racetrack promoters, dogs are short-term investments. Even the fastest dogs only race for a few years, and are expected to generate enough profit during that time to make up for the cost of their food and housing.

The pressure to generate gambling profits can lead to negligent care. Adoption groups frequently receive dogs in a general state of neglect, including dogs suffering from severe infestations of fleas, ticks, and internal parasites.

To cut costs, dogs are fed the cheapest meat available. According to Care of the Racing Greyhound, the primary sources for meat used to feed greyhounds in the United States are "abattoirs that have commercial products of 4-D meat for Greyhounds." It goes on to add, "The 'D' stands for dying, diseased, disabled and dead livestock ... this meat is used because it is the most economically feasible at this time."

The quality of veterinary care a dog receives can also be compromised by financial considerations.
Dogs Race in Extreme Weather Conditions
At commercial racetracks, dogs race on the hottest days of summer and the coldest days of winter. These extreme weather conditions can contribute to racing injuries.
Dogs are Trained With Live Animals, Such as Rabbits

Some members of the dog racing industry believe that training dogs with live animals, such as rabbits, causes them to run faster when competing. While the industry has publicly denounced this practice, it does still occur. In 2002 a greyhound breeder and owner had his state license suspended after he was caught using domestic rabbits to train his dogs. At least 180 rabbits were found at his kennel in rural Arizona.

Some Trainers Give Dogs Performance Enhancing Drugs
Because commercial dog tracks are dependent on gambling revenue, there is always a risk that the integrity of races will be compromised by the use of performance enhancing drugs.

In 2002, Wisconsin state officials secretly filmed a greyhound trainer injecting 11 dogs before races with a foreign substance they believed to be boldenone, an anabolic steroid derived from testosterone. In a separate case, 119 dogs tested positive for cocaine at Florida racetracks between 2001 and 2003. Unfortunately, the state refused to investigate how these drug-positive dogs had ingested cocaine.
Dog Racing Should be Phased Out

Like all dogs, greyhounds deserve to be protected. Until dog racing is outlawed, dogs will continue to be confined in small cages for long hours each day, they will continue to suffer serious injuries, and will continue to face the risk of neglect and death.

It is time for citizens to stand up and say “enough is enough.â€￾ Please add your voice to the growing chorus of people who believe that it is wrong to treat dogs in this cruel manner.

I'll Holla 5000

 

I agree to an extent Bigdawg. There are a handful, maybe 10, states that still have legal dog racing. The difference I do see is that the main goal of dogfighting, is to have dogs fight. While the conditions of living, losing, and dying may be horrible in both sports at the crux of it you have dogs being bred for fighting or dogs being bred for racing. Overall, racing is far less inhumane than breeding for fighting.

I'm not gonna get in a long drawn out debate about which is worse, but some of the things Vick (and friends) supposedly did to the dogs is sick.

I will agree however, that the conditions that greyhounds and whippets are subjected to in a racing environment IS criminal. Like the article said, dogs that are no longer viable winners are often destroyed...just like dogfighting.

People have been calling for the end of that sport for years, as a matter of fact the article you posted is by one such group of people who want to do so.

 

REED is AMUSED by those Who Suggest that he is "Racist" by Asking BLACK Men why they DISLIKE a BLACK Fighter:: ...

@ NO Point has REED Suggested Racial SUPERIORITY or Anything Remotely Associated w/"Racism"...N NO Way is REED DISCRIMINATING on Other Races...

REED is Asking BLACK Men,African-AMERICAN Men N Particular,How &/or WHY they DISLIKE a Successful Black,African-American Fighter...What's WRONG &/or RACIST about That???:dunno: ...

If REED Saw a Fillipino Poster OPENLY HATING on Manny Pac,REED would Wonder WHY he Does that...If REED Saw a Mexican Poster OPENLY HATING on Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.,REED would WONDER why he Does that...If U Show REED a Puerto Rican Boxing Fan who OPENLY HATES on Tito AND Cotto Simultaneously,REED is Gonna wonder WHY he Does that...

There 1nce was a Poster Named "Terp",who CLAIMED he was BLACK...Yet he OPENLY HATED on Roy Jones,Pernell Whittaker,Sugar Ray Leonard,Mike Tyson AND Muhammad Ali...N Contemporary Black America,REED has YET to Meet a BLACK Individual who HATED ALL 5 of those Guys,Simultaneously,UNTIL he Came Across "Terp"...As Such,REED IMMEDIATELY Questioned Whether "Terp" REALLY WAS Black or Not...

Lo & Behold,"Terp" WASN'T Black...

& NO Point has REED Said that Roy Jones is ENTITLED to the Fandom of ALL Black People,REED is Merely ASKING Brothers who DON'T Like Roy to EXPLAIN WHY they Don't...

If YOU See "Racism" N that,YOU have a Problem,NOT REED....


REED

 

I think it is amusing as well, although your love for Roy is a bit disturbing. ::

I mean, me for example, I couldn´t possibly think of a reason to dislike Roy Jones, the fighter. Not his unsportsmanlike behaviour inside the ring or his arrogance outside the ring. Besides acting like an ass inside and outside the ring he seems like a likeable sportsman. :: ::

 

Good post...

I see nothing wrong with the question...

My point was, Which black men on this board hate on Roy...

Xplosive?

I don't know that there are... so, REED, what black men that you know of hate on Roy.

I have a buddy at work that gives me a hard time about Roy but that's only because he's from Philly and Loves Bernard Hopkins. (he also doesn't understand boxing like we do, but that's another story)

I still wonder if the premise is correct.

 

basically if anyone eats meat and/or dairy products then they can't object to any of this stuff without being labelled a hypocrite
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This post is spot on. Like you mentioned and there is nothing racist about asking the question. It's a simple answer. I can't believe how so many non black posters get their panties in a bunch for asking a simple ass question. I'm still trying to figure out the answer my damn self. I'll Holla 5000

 

All I know is that there is a whole lot of hypocrisy in this world. And if people are gonna go after Vick for what he allegedly did then the Govt needs to go after these bastards for similar type animal cruelty. I'll Holla 5000

 

simple

1) what are some reasons that non-black posters dislike Jones?
2) why should these factors be any different for black posters?


:notallthere: fools
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Obviously you just don't understand. But hey just like I don't understand certain things when it comes to other ethnic backgrounds this is the one thing you don't understand. I'll Holla 5000

 

i dont exactly dislike him because hes country, i just not a fan of his because he is. i like fighters like bernard because he is closer to the type of people i grew up around, like hops said jones wants to be like him. jones is just a country boy i dont think anyone is any better. just different

 

Reed, I don't think your other examples are that comparable because Chavez, Pacquiao and Trinidad were all very popular, among boxing and many general sports/non-boxing fans...at least as much as boxers can cross-over that aren't heavyweights and non-named DLH.

Jones never had their kind of popularity among boxing or non-boxing fans.

His style, both in and out of the ring, made him much more of a love or hate kind of fighter...and that only increased over time as he became more outspoken and opinionated.

In terms of popularity - and divisive qualities among fans/spectators/media - I think Jones is probably more comparable to Naseem Hamed (and no, I'm not comparing them as fighters).

 

BigDawg... The fact that he doesn't understand is exactly WHY REED asked the question to black posters...

Brothas understand the question.

 

every black person knows who roy jones jr is

 

I don't think REED is racist at all, and I don't have a problem with his question, but I have to admit I simply don't understand it.

As others have stated, black people might simply dislike Jones for the same reason non blacks don't.

A black person might simply not like his fighting style, his personality, even his face, who knows. You can't like everyone, regardless of skin colour.

If a black person hated ALL black fighters? Then yes, I would say that's a little weird, and they obviously have some issues.

But jones is simply one fighter, and a lot of people are going to dislike him, white, black, asian, whatever.

 

I repeat my statement from a moment ago...


Brothas understand the question...

 

and MWS


I mean you no disrespect with that response...

 

Xplosive is the only black realist on this board when it comes to RJJ imo. He got called a traitor and a heap of other shit from the "brothers" for telling it how it is.

 

dsimon writes:

And somebody is presumably twisting your arm and forcing you to post on the topic Roboto? :notallthere:

Some people feel there is a distinct way and a difference in the way some Black people feel based on their experience as African Americans.... I guess growing up in Australia, or Atlanta? makes you an expert on what other people's experience as African Americans in the USA should be and therefore the topic should be dismissed accordingly.

 

when did this happened?

 

exactly my point. why do you wonder? you wonder because you assume that like you, everyone has a special preference for fighters who are the same race as themselves. and so you're perplexed by the possibility that someone wouldn't be a fan of a fighter who is of the same race as themself.

this might be one of those questions you'll have to figure out for yourself. or never figure out at all.

 

you mean he doesn't understand racism?

 

People hate Roy a lot because they see him as a guy who talks a lot of shit and never fights dangerous opponents.

 

I've never understood why all the child molestors on this website hate on Davey Hilton all the time. How can you turn your back on one of your own? :dunno:

Fuck all you traitors. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!! :flip:

 

VALID Point...

But How does that Explain the DEVOTION that Mexican-AMERICAN or Rican-AMERICAN Fans have for Chavez,Tito or Cotto????

REED:dunno: