Could Roy Jones Jr have beaten Lennox Lewis at heavyweight in 2003?

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  1. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    thats Bullshit... Ruiz was affected by Roy's punch and IF ROy landed flush an Lewis chin that would affect anybody - maybe not Tua or Chuvalo but most boxers would have been affected by getting hit by a 190lbs Jones.

    And Roy took a good shot from Ruiz so it's not like a jab would have definitely knocked him out...


    Did anybody learn something from that Riuz-fight lol - i thought it should have ended all that walk through and a jab would knock him out teeny bopper bullshit.


    That being said: Lewis wins...
     
  2. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No but they're still as good or better than Rahman. They've beaten future and former world champions.
    Vitali Klitschko too was a world champion if you forgot.
     
  3. dymipepel

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    Based on the fact that they've never beaten a reigning world champion and Rahman did?

    Unlike Rahman, who strictly prefered to beat ACTUAL reigning champions.

    So was Rahman. He was a champion twice, in fact. In one of his fights, he knocked out reigning, defending world champion. Unlike, say, Vitaly, who never did.
     
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    Even I will concede that Ruiz would have been an underdog against the elder Klitschko.
     
  5. dymipepel

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    Ruiz would have been a heavy favorite. Expirience, my friend, expirience.
    Vitaly has never been able to defeat a former, reigning, or future world champion. In fact, he never even managed to last the distance with a world champion.
    Ruiz, on the other hand, not only knows what it's like to defeat a world champion, he spent 84 rounds in the ring with world champions (6 times more than Vitaly!!), and never been knocked out by world champion (Vitaly was stopped in both his fights with world champions).
     
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    Consider a bum like Glencoffe Johnson put Roy Jones Jr on the canvas for a full minute and had him on queer-street for another 5, I'd say Lennox Lewis' jab probably breaks Roy's jaw.

    Someone would be sued from the outcome of such a fight.
     
  7. His_Royness

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    Looks like Johnson punches harder than Ruiz... :rolleyes:
     
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    my thoughts exactly. Ruiz didn't have 50% of the power Lewis did in his jab let alone his right. The height/reach advantage would've been rediculous as well. Lennox Lewis could've seriously hurt Roy Jones Jr. no doubt.
     
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    not a good thread
     
  10. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    How we know Vitali is better than Ruiz:

    1) Ruiz fought superior competition over the long haul. I grant you that fact.

    2) Vitali was bigger, stronger and is technically superior from a cursory glance. Vitali fought a great fight against Lewis.

    Ruiz only fought somoene truly on Lewis' level once and got decimated.

    3) Ruiz also lost to a middleweight and got decimated. Vitali lost to Byrd and never got decimated.

    Vitali shit in his pants at the mere mention of Rahman's name and Ruiz beat Rahman though.:lol:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Sanders is my favorite South African heavyweight.:cheer: And when another one comes along I am sure I will like them also!:lol:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    So was Ruiz.:lol:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    I actually like you Double so don't take this the wrong way. Dima pimpel on the ass actually makes sense in his arguments. If you actually listen to what he argues at least 75% of his arguments are good arguments. He is often dismissed because his arguments are not popular arguments, but such is a nature of a pimpel on the ass, like Socrates, the most famous pimpel on the ass (gadfly) that often people get incensed when these arguments are made.

    You my friend do not make sense most of the time and argue absurdities. :doh: :lol:.
     
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    I remember Lennox saying " I'll knock the "S" right off his chest." Roy wouldn't have been able to take the massive shots, but what a build up it would have been. RJJ would have boxed circle around him for about 7rds before getting caught flush and erased by a heavy right.:clap:
     
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    thats roughly how I see it as well. Sooner or later Roy would've have been caught by lewis. Hell if Lewis landed a right to Roy's arm it could've put him down:lol:
     
  16. Hanzy

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    In order to box circles around an opponent, you have to get within range to land your shots. If Roy was willing to do that against a man of Lewis' size and power AND do that for 12 rounds, he'd have a great chance. I think there's a chance Roy could've pulled it off IF he got the overweight lethargic Lewis, not the Lewis from the Grant/Golota fights. It's a big 'If' though.
     
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    I can't believe this thread has gotten 75 hits. I was tempted to close it immediately for stupidity.

    Of course Roy couldn't have beaten Lennox Lewis. Forget Lewis' natural weight and power advantage...it's a simple matter of height and reach disparity.
     
  18. dymipepel

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    True, both Ruiz and Klitschko were beaten by blown-up middleweights. However, whereas Klitschko was stopped by a former middleweight and didn't even make it to championship rounds, Ruiz lasted the distance and heard the bell for the 12-th (and final) round.
    And, of course, losing to an all-time great (Jones) is a bit less embarassing than losing to Byrd.
     
  19. Hanzy

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    Nobody closes MY threads, staff.:nono:
     

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