Miguel Cotto/Shane Mosley early predictions!

I can't count out Shane in this one. I think he gets off to a great start and Cotto closes the gap down the stretch. Mosley hangs on to win a close and somewhat disputed but exciting SD.

Mosley SD

 

Muzse, what's your official pick for this fight?

Edit: Nevermind, i just saw your above post

 

what's so funny son?

 

True, but if Shane doesn't have enough left to beat Cotto, there really isn't much point in him fighting Floyd, and likewise if Cotto were to really put a beating on Shane (not going to happen) it makes the Cotto Floyd matchup that much more desireable. So me thinks things should sort themselves out well.

 

Regardless of who wins (as long as it is a convincing win)...whoever fights Floyd next would be a HUGE fight. But a Cotto/Floyd fight would be even bigger IMO...

 

I wonder if that fight could be made.

"Like I said before" if Cotto gets past Mosley and Mayweather gets past Hatton...

Depending on how Cotto looks, I'd favor him in a match against Mayweather.

 

Problem is MUZSE the only way to beat Floyd, IMO is to either knock him out or to squeeze out a decision through activity and bullying tactics.

IMO Cotto is capable of neither. He's too patient and clinical.

 

:laughing: :laughing:

 

You don't need to be a complete swarmer...especially not with today's PBF at 147 lbs.

And Cotto is very capable of bullying - I just think he does it with intent and in very deliberate, calculating fashion vs. just coming inside and trying to rough you up with pure physical aggression and recklessness.

If Cotto indeed beats Mosley, I think this is a very, very interesting fight...hell, it might be even if Cotto loses to Shane, depending on the nature of the loss.

Peace.

 

Very likely scenario for a Mosley victory...but I gotta think Cotto will try to start off quickly as well to wear Mosley down, similar to how he did Judah and Quintana.

Peace.

 

I told you Cotto will stop him late a month ago, why you are still discussing the fight? :dunno:

 

Floyd ain't losin' to Casper

 

Not likely, but it would be funny. Just the thought of the perceived unskilled pale euro dethroning the crybaby. This would be like the end of the boxing world we know. ::

 

THIS is what will happen:

Shane will win the first round by outspeeding/outboxing Cotto. He'll buzz Cotto in the 2nd round and stun him badly in the third. Cotto wil respond slowly and clinically and even things out by the 6th. From there on he'll gradually wear Shane down with a body attacka nd accurate punches inside and Shane will be limited to spurt fighting. By the 10th Shane will be ready to go and a body attack will signal his demise.

 

:bears:

 

That's why this is such an excellent fight. Cotto has shown a penchant for getting hurt early then hanging on, but those instances occured against guys not of the caliber of a 35 yr. old Mosley.

If Shane hurts him, he'll try to finish him and won't allow him to survive like Torres, Judah or Corley.

If Shane shows the same aggression and mean intent he showed in the first Vargas fight, I see a scenario where he stops Cotto early.

Out of all the fights this Fall, this is the one I'm most excited to see because you've got two guys who want to fight. Not one guy who wants to fight and the other looking to do enough to win (meaning Taylor vs Pavlik & Mayweather vs Hatton).

 

How do you know Cotto can handle it to the body?

 

When Floyd kicks Hatton's ass, you'll be eating your words.

But agreed with Cotto-Mosley, its an excellent fight, and like you I'm leaning with Shane.

 

I'm sure Floyd will go after Hatton with the same "aggression" he went after Oscar and Baldomir.

 

I go back and forth on this fight. Neither guy backs down from a challenge and both are willing to trade. Mosely is the experienced veteran, Cotto the young gun. I want to lean to Mosely, but I think Cotto is going to take this one in Epic fashion. I think Miguel is going to catch Shane at the most perfect opurtunistic time. Shane will be the consomate pro that he is and give him all that he can handle, but I think we will all see that ring wars with Winky, ODH, and Forrest will have taken their toll on Sugar Shane. I think the ref stops the fight in the tenth with Miguel unloading. There is no doubt in my mind that this will be a top 3 foty candidate:bears:

 

I just remembered what this fight kinda reminds me of...in the CONTEXT of being a young promising, undefeated, talented but unproven fighter against a proven talent that has been in with the best but might be slightly past his best.

Lennox Lewis vs Razor Ruddock.

We all know what happened there.

 

Mosley was fighting even with Vargas in their first fight, against a similar style, and a guy that IMO is not at Cotto's level at this point.

Cotto will win a 8-4 type of decision by landing the better looking punche, and hurting mosley a few times.

 

I agree

This is just a fight for Mosely to get more shop worn and older before PBF debates if he wants to fight him or not.
Maybe when he is like 38 years old.
IMO Cotto is just the person to make an aging fighter get even older real fast.
Good tactical move by PBF. Let the two clearly stronger and more skilled fighters batter each other , then wait some more time and pick out the older weaker fighter to possibly fight.

 

mayweather already beat the older, weakest fighter. That same guy mosley defeated twice.

 

and that's a good argument for what exactly?? ::

 

dsimon writes:

Nice Sly!!

The only difference I can see is that Razor was definitely the favorite in a big way according to the talking heads. People now-a-days tend to forget that for a while there Razor was considered quite the hot property. He increased his credability with his wars against Tyson, in both fights he almost beat Tyson in the last rounds of the fight.

But you are spot on. People thought Lewis did not have the experience yet to challenge Razor who was considered crafty and able.

 

dsimon writes:

Jaws huh? Why don't you come to San Francisco on Thursday from Berkely and meet me..... oh never mind!::

Seriously I see the fight this way also. Shane is crafty and has heart but I don't think he can adjust the way he does things in the ring and at this point in his career I don't see him beating Cotto.

 

Oh , you mean the guy he really lost to because he ran , was holding , punching gloves & air.

Oh that guy ... WOW , thats real impressive when you lose a fight and get the decision victory.

Lets go brag about it ... :cheer: :cheer:

Wait a minute , this can't be DLH , he only lost to Mosely once.

 

well Id love to take your word for it. but the cashiers at the sports books seemed to agree with me, and my betting tickets, that said Mosley won the rematch and Mayweather defeated delahoya as well:bears:

 

Oh here we go , the paper defense ... ::

Whatever man. Just like Holyfield had a draw in the first fight with Lennox.
Just like Chavez beat Whitaker. Just like DLH beat Sturum. Just like PBF beat B-level Castillo in the first fight.

The paper defense really holds a lot of water in determining who really won a fight.