source: <!-- m -->http://www.fightbeat.com/news_details.php?NW=20332<!-- m --> Swanson Communications advised that the "media only" press conference today at Rockefeller Plaza Center Garden at 12:30 will be open to the public to watch. Although there will be an area closed off for "media only",fans can take in all the action from outside areas around the plaza. So take lunch early and don't miss what should be another exciting press conference. See you there FIGHTBEAT.COM
This is like a restaurant telling you they're all booked for the night, but you're free to look through the window and see what other people are eating.
I'm really starting to hate Golden Planet Hollywood. They're changing boxing alright...for the worse.
you know you aren't too far off base with this. at the LA presser you could have sworn it was for a fight as they were handing out credentials, you had to show you actually worked for a site, they roped off areas for "VIPs", etc it was disgusting. Honestly, if it weren't for Floyd, IMO this would have been closed to the public but from what I gather he loves to have public pressers, workouts etc. He signed autos in LA for at least 90 minutes straight and only stopped because there was no one left who wanted something signed or a pic taken. He literally outlasted his fans (a lot more than you think especially in LA). Ricky tried to sign and greet as many as he could but since Golden Boy was doing his PR he went where they told him. He did manage to sign a few things for people and greet some fans who were from the UK. If this was solely Golden Mafia, the fans wouldn't have even gotten within breathing distance of the presser.
true, but these guys are so fan friendly that they might go into the public and sign autographs. Besides the more exporuse boxing can get the better for us fans. C
Why is that? Surely De La Lovesongs realizes the importance of winning fans, jesus, his whole career is based on his fanbase and marketability really.
the fans shouldn't have to rely on how nice these guys are in order to able to see their favorite fighters. If boxing has one thing over all the major sports is that our atheletes are by far some of the most approachable in sports. With the exception of very very few I haven't seen too many boxers that were just flat out unapproachable. Golden Mafia is taking that aspect away. While their pockets are lined they have managed IMO to alienate the fan away from the sport they are supposedly trying to help. You do not see this type of behavior from Top Rank or GSP or Main Events only Golden Mafia does this. Maybe thats why their fights, like BA Jake says, resemble insurance conventions rather than boxing cards
no I think NOW he knows that his fans have gotten to this point and he can rely more on corporate sponsers, casinos, TV etc to get his revenue. My guess is that since the casual fan doesn't know any better they will accept whatever Golden Mafia sells to them. when you have less than 2500 tickets available to sell to the fans in a 17000 seat arena is that really doing whats best for boxing and the fans of the sport or whats best for your promotional company?
The point you seem to be missing is that it should just be open to the public, and not have fans treated as if they were lower class peasants. They shouldn't have to go, knowing that they're literally on the outside looking in, with the HOPES that Floyd and Ricky have time to shake a few hands. agREED on everything Eaner said, and anyone who's covered a Floyd fight in the past has undoubtedly seen that side of him, not the fool he portrays in hyping up fights.
EXACTLY... When I covered Floyd vs N'dou, Floyd was signing something for a teenager then a local camera crew came over to interview him. Floyd was in the middle of signing, told the kid he'd get back to him when he was done with the interview. The interview ended, the kid wasn't standing there anymore, Floyd walked around the room until he found the kid and finished signing. If he showed THAT side of himself more often it would be beneficial to him and the sport.
Well I guess I don't agree to a certain extent. It's hard enough to do your job as a media person having to compete with other media people for interview and time with the fighters. I peronsally hate when all of the fans are there taking photos, they just get in the way. Maybe what they should have done is set aside an hour for fan time. But while the media is there, let us do our job. That's how I feel about it. Cupey
God I hate the Golden Snaggle Tooth Mafia. I hope Oscar takes a beating in his next Cinco De Mayo fight.
Sounds like you've lost touch just like Golden Planet. You're there for the free eats and to rub elbows. There are more fans than there are of you.
Yep, it's a shit way to do things but it makes sense I guess. I was more talking about fans for Hatton though. If Oscar wants to promote Hatton in the future, would it not also be in Oscar's best interest to let Hatton do his thing and help him in his quest to win more fans in America etc?
another story: at the Floyd Baldomir LA presser Floyd sat there after all his interviews were done (which he asked everyone if they got what they needed) and signed everything in sight. Kelly Swanson told everyone they had to leave as Floyd had a plane to catch. Floyd told her no, everyone is getting their shit signed. Kelly said he is going to miss his plane Floyd countered make them wait, she said it wont, then Floyd said we'll take another one, we'll drive back to Vegas it dont matter but I am not leaving until these people get what they came here for. Kelly huffed off on Monday I asked Oscar if he ever thought he would be on another press tour with Floyd. He looked at me and said "never in my wildest dreams". I understood where that came from because for the most part he is by the book and Floyd isn't but you could also see the difference in how they handle their fans. Oscar, walked past his fans, signed very few things, his security pushed everyone back, and it became a mob scene. Floyd, who had about the same amount of people, sat there explained that everyone will get their stuff signed and not to push, told his bodyguards to chill and flow the crowd to him and everything was calm. That spoke volumes to me about who really likes their fans and who uses them
:: well I'm a fan of boxing. no shame in that. still see myself that way. Real media people get paid ::
I agree but its not Ricky and Rays nature to try and force the issue unlike Floyd who dont give a fuck about Golden Mafia or Oscar (as much as Oscar says he dont like Floyd I think Floyd hates him more) and will do his own thing to spite Golden Mafia's wishes for a media only event. Hatton seems to me the type to go along with whatever they say
a lot of media feel this way. I looked at the model that Goossen Tutor's former PR person Rachel Charles. She KNEW fans go to these events yet instead of fighting them she acknowledged them, told them once the media gets their stuff its ok to ask the fighters for autos, pics etc and made sure the two didnt get in the way. Same thing with Top Rank. At the Morales Pacquiao III presser Lee Samuels announced that while he knows there are a lot of fans here and he doesnt want to kick them out can they move to the back of the room so the media can do their job then he will allow for pics autos etc. Golden Mafia has taken that one fan aspect away from their pressers. Honestly, how often do you think a Los Angeles fan of oh say Miguel Cotto will get to see Miguel Cotto? very little so why are we trying to deny them that one chance? if we need an influx of new fans why are we shooing away the few we got?
good point. :: i don't completely disagree with what you said about hustling for interviews, and hoping for as few distractions as possible. But technically, the purpose of a press conference is for fighters and those involved to say what they have to say and for the media to get their story based off of that. They're not their solely to offer one-on-one interviews to every Tom, Dick and Carlos with a video camera. Look at the stories Joe was able to produce just based on the press conference itself. To my recollection, none were dependent on an exclusive interview (save for a quote or two). I read those articles as being told from the POV of someone who stood back, took everything in and brought the story to the public as if they really were there. THAT is reporting. But the game has instead become more about instant content. The fact that a video is posted ten minutes later is given more attention than the fact that most of the questions in the video are less challenging than my asking my kids how their day at school went.
I know Rachel Charles. I worked with her at Star Boxing. Nice she isn't, I can assure you. But she does a good job. Since I've also organized press conferences for media days for Star Boxing I can tell you that the are situations where you want the fans and some you don't. A day like this you are trying to get as much TV, newspaper, radio, and internet coverage as possible. You want to reach millions and not a few hundred fans. However, I did state that the organizers of this event should have setup a time for the fans to get their autographs in, but media need to work without interruption or extra distractions. Cupey
I agree about the bad questions and poor quality of the videos. But that's how they do things at boxing*&^%$scene so what can you do :tease:
hmm I have known for about 4 years and she has never been anything but nice to me but to each their own from a media aspect yes it is nice to be able to get your content finished with as little interference as possible. However, to shun the fans who show up for this type of stuff isn't the correct approach. Many a presser has gone on well without turning away the fan.
I guess there's two sides to everyone in this (and any other) business. A lot of people will say that Fred Sternburg is accomodating as they come, others will claim he's a two-faced cunt. Personally, Rachel's always been one of my favorite people to deal with, though of course I've never worked with/for her.