At 154lb. Trinidad (the version who fought Reid, Vargas, etc) vs Duran (the version who fought Hearns in '84).
Your already trying to put Duran at an disadvantage, if we're talking about 154 then its only fair we use the Duran that destroyed Moore. In any case, at 154 its pretty much a pick em. At 147 I'd pick Duran, but at 154 theres a real possibility Tito could beat him. I cant see him stopping Duran like Hearns did though, Tito was simply NOT Hearns. But he could score with enough heavy blows, and hurt Duran enough to win a decision. But at the same time, Duran could do the same to him.
This would be a competitive war that if it goes 12, Duran would probably win a close decision. If this fight ends via KO, I think it would be late and Trinidad would be the more likely of the two to score it. Its pretty much a "pick em" at this weight. I would take Duran via clear and deserved decision at 147, and at 160, Tito would probably stop him late.
Tito's got a chance if Duran shows up sluggish and disinterested but if he turns up to win then he does. Just watch a tape of Duran and watch a tape of Tito....they're on different stasopspheres skill wise. its like comparing Maradona to Jermain Defoe. Ones good ones a genius.
If I did, then it wasn't meant to be intentional. I'm hypothesising how that night's Duran would deal with a slower, lighter-puncher and more one-dimensional fighter than Hearns.
If Duran's in the mood he beats that clumsy plodder with both his legs tied together and an apple in his mouth.
Legs being tied would actually help him as it would e easier for him to fall in clinches which he loved to do. But what would the apple do, take the power off of his butts?
Well OBVIOUSLY, the apple would be for Tito to take wee bites out of at rough points of the fight to give him energy. You can even have Don felix inject the apple with Aaron Pryor's magic potion as well. Still...Duran KO 11.
Gimme Trinidad to knock Duran the fuck out in about 8 rounds (unless he is thumbed or something like that)
Trinidad was to good at that weight for Robbie. Duran's overall skill level would make it competitive. Trinidad would score a TKO win at some point.
He couldnt stop Reid, and it took him 12 to stop Vargas, but he'd stop Duran within 8. Perfect logic. Sly's hatred of Duran shines through again.
Even though I don't like comparing fights. This fight if any would resemble Tito's win against Vargas. It'd be competitive in spots, but Tito would control the bout for the most part and eventually get Duran in the late rounds.
"Hearns couldnt stop Barkley, couldn't stop Luigi Minchillo, and it took him 10 rounds to stop Dennis Andries but he'd stop Duran within 2. Perfect logic. Sly's hatred of Duran shines through again" - What Xplosive would have said, had this not happened.....
Wow....feels like Duran may be a tad overrated at 154 lbs - especially if Duran-Trinidad at 154 lbs. is being compared to Duran-Moore. :eeeek:
None ever compared it to Duran-Moore. All that was said is that its only fair to use the Duran that BEAT Moore. If anything, its Tito thats being overrated. He aint stopping Duran. He doesnt posses Hearns' power, range, handspeed, or jab to set up the power shots.
Duran would be made to order for Trinidad. It's a matter of styles, gentlemen. Tito LOVES guys like Duran would would come after him and try to war with him...especially a smaller and shorter guy like Duran. Duran would be busted up.
Yeah, cause Tito beat so many guys comparable to Duran. Duran's a far cry from Campas, or Mayorga brah.
Fair point...but there's a reason Duran beat Moore as badly as he did - that's my point. And btw....early at 154, Trinidad certainly did set up his power shots much better than he did at 160. Peace.
Again...FORGET that Duran is the legend of lightweight and who battled Leonard, Hagler and Hearns and just...FOR ONE SECOND, consider the styles, sizes and abilities of the two fighters at that weight and then picture them in the ring. Duran gets smoked like a spliff...
If size meant anything, than Hagler and Barkley woulda smoked Duran. Tito's taller than Duran, but not nearly as tall or as rangy as Hearns. Duran would be able to get inside of Tito, and slip many of his inside shots, and Duran's quickness on the in AND outside would surprise Tito I think. I didnt even say that Tito would lose, I just said that he aint stopping Duran. I think sometimes ppl go overboard about Tito's power.
for the wrong reasons secretariat is right Trinidad has the power and style to hurt Duran and stop him at 154
Here's what would happen: Duran starts slow and Trinidad outboxes him. Down by four rounds, Duran lands a big left that rattles Trinidad. Trinidad tries to slow down Duran by throwing a low blow. Duran rips Trinidad's balls off and eats them in front of him. Trinidad wins the battle, but loses the war.
Trinidad's guys seem to be forgetting that the aura-of-invcincibility of Trinidad, during this era is based on: * a 14-fight, droopy-eyed, over-hyped David Reid * a decent, yet-inexperienced Fernando Vargas (who, let;s face it, got cheated out of that fight by: low-blows and 'illegally' wrapped hands) * a total hands-down-by-my-sides bum called William Joppy As soon as anyone with any ring-savvy, toughness, smarts and ability gets in the ring with him, Trinidad struggles. If Duran went to war with Trinidad, I feel it would be a mistake and he's get stopped like Ricardo Mayorga....but if he played it smart, got in close, mixed it up....then a points win for Duran.