THE WBC STRIPS MOSLEY; DECLARES FLOYD THEIR CHAMP

Yeah...but Mosley finished the fight.

You ever been hit with a body shot like that - where a 6'0" big welterweight STEPS INTO the shot with full weight behind it?

At the risk of sounding Stinger-like, I can guarantee you can't predict what sound you'd make.

And btw - Mosley DID buzz Winky in that 6th round. No matter how much Winky denies it, he quickly put up his hands and then clinched Shane...and both Wink and Birmingham knew it.

Shane's got solid power at 147...remember that fight was at 154 against a BIG jr. middleweight in Winky (and an elite fighter).

Peace.

 

Plus he got one of the best beards out there today. I'll Holla 5000

 

actually from what Shane said at his LA presser it was the combination of having a surgery scar from a hernia he had during the Shannan Taylor and the shot that hit right on the incision

 

Excuses, excuses. ::

 

big deal! An interim tittle is only good if it creates a fight witht he real champion. Obviously to make a Floyd/Mosley fight you shouldn't need a tittle.

Still I laugh when fighters and fans laugh at titles. Yet most of the big names in boxing still carry championship belts. And in some cases like Mosley still fight for interim belts.

Clearly the belts still hold some value even for the stars of the sport.

 

Over the past five or ten years, I've been to tons of different boxing message boards. That bodyshot changed the history of boxing. You can't start a "greatest bodyshot of all time" topic anywhere without someone mentioning that shot. It was absolutely perfect. The fact that Mosley didn't hit the canvas is a testament to him.

 

I must have missed something here, why is Shane getting stripped for fighting Cotto? What did Floyd do to get this belt?

 

Floyd beat Baldomir the real champ. Shane was given the interim when he beat Collazo while Floyd when up to 154 to fight for Oscar's tittle.

IT doesn't matter Shane's tittle was an interim only. Cotto's WBA tittle will be on the line.

It would be kind of silly to unify a world tittle with an interim tittle.::

 

You just said Bumdomir was a real champ, that just doesn't set well with me :nono:

How long ago was the Floyd fight, it just doesn't make sense. Give it to someone else.....

 

why wouldn't it, though?
Floyd beat Baldomir...
who beat Judah...
who beat Spinks...
who beat (and unified all three titles against) Mayorga...
who beat Forrest...
who beat Shane...
who beat Oscar, when both were #1 and 2 after Tito moved up to 154.

You don't have to like the fact that Baldy was in the mix, you just have to accept it. Blame Zab.

 

Agreed. Even if one buys into Baldo beating Judah "was a fluke/he wasn't prepared" etc. Mayweather beat Zab also anyway.

Yes Baldomir is shit, but he won the title fair and square. Also Baldomir was only a champ at 147, it's not as if people had him on P4P lists.

 

exactly. Randy Turpin beat SRR to win the middleweight championship. It didn't make him the best in the sport, or necessarily even the best middleweight. It just made him the champ, even if only through one fight.

 

He was a one hit wonder so to speak, I can't call him the "real champ" where am I losing you?

 

The real champ is not necessarily always the guy who is the best. Everyone knew Floyd would beat Baldomir easy. There are many examples of this throught history. The point is the champ is the guy who beat the man who beat the man. The guy who is currently holding the title and nothing more.

It's not who's better on paper.

 

WTF are you guys disecting a simple problem, I am not calling that fraud a champ......quit looking too deep into it ::

He's a REAL one hit wonder, that's as far as it's going with "REAL" :warning:

I liked how Bumdimir got credit for everyone elses wins.

 

His reign lasted ten months, comparable to those of:
- Judah (11 months)
- Spinks (14 months)
- Mayorga (10 months)
- Forrest (12 months)

He made one successful title defense (against Arturo Gatti), comparable to those of:
- Judah (1, Cosme Rivera)
- Spinks (2, Judah I, M. Gonzalez)
- Mayorga (1, Forrest rematch)
- Forrest (1, Mosley rematch)

Hell even at that, Shane's reign lasted 8 months longer, and his 3 successful defenses came against Antonio Diaz, Adrian Stone and Shannon Taylor.

We can go on and on. The bottom line is that Baldomir, as ordinary as he was/is and as weak of true title claimant, did in fact hold the linear welterweight title. Therefore, he was the REAL welterweight champ for as long as it lasted (10 months).

Where am I losing you?

 

:bears:

 

I agree he's a one-hit wonder. So was Leon Spinks. And Buster Douglas. And Randy Turpin. And on and one.

You can find a one-hit wonder in every generation. But the fact of the matter is, all were, at one point (however narrow a time frame) or another, the real champ of their respective weight class.

 

Anyway, we're supposed to be further ridiculing Golden Planet Hollywood Mafia here, not Baldomir. :nono:

The only Carlos that deserves to be picked on around here is the hack that runs this joint. :nono:

 

You are losing me when you take the fighters Judah won against and everyone else down the line and make it out like Bumdimir accomplished the same. We know Bumdimir beat Judah, how is Judah doing? What is Bumdimir doing? GTFO.

 

Now Buster is "real" as Tyson

You guys are pretty dense.

 

AAAARRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!! I am this close




TO RAPING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!!

 

Then you are in the same level as a "real" rapist like Tyson. Do you feel special for being his equal?

 

well, it's the problem in general with the obsession over having to label someone "champ" in every division. If they simply ranked 'em from 1-10, this wouldn't be an issue. Personally, i wish it were that way, this way "champs" couldn't merely sit on a lead. "Champs" like todays LHW version of Bernard Hopkins would be forced to not only fight more than once a year, but against fellow top LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS in order to maintain his lead.

There, now we're back to picking on GPHM :bears:

 

1a.Vernon Forrest
1b. Mayweather
2. Bumdimir ::