Pac wants Valero next

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  1. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    He is hiding from Diaz
     
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    While I wouldn't mind seeing that, why is it that Pac/Arum can't just travel from A to B? The one fight at 130 that matters most is Pac-JMM II. Yet Arum refuses to make it. Why? Because he doesn't like Juan (or more specifically, Nacho Beristan)

    Then he says he wants to go to 135. The fight that makes most sense? Juan Diaz (esp. after this weekend). Instead, they target DAVID Diaz. Why? Because Arum wants to sign Juan, but was never able to close the deal.

    Now, Freddie and Pac go back and forth on whether or not he can still make 130. Does he struggle to make weight, or doesn't he? It's not a flip-flop type of question, simply yes or no.
     
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    Probably. What the hell would fighting Valero do for him?
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    it would be huge in Asia... if Arum's buddy ever finishes building his hotel in Macau.
     
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    Well Manny deserves an easy fight after all the top guys he's been fighting for so long. He also deserves a big payday. Also can't hurt to let JMM get a bit long in the tooth while he fights someone else too.
     
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    Manny's Squeezed In PLENTY of "Easy" Fights btwn his Bigger Bouts...

    He Fought Velasquez PRIOR to Morales II, he Fought Oscar Larios & he Fought Solis PRIOR to Barrera II...

    NOW is the Time for Pac-Marquez II...


    REED:cool:
     
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    Valero would be his hardest fight since the first Morales fight.
     
  9. steve_dave

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    2005 was the time for Pac-Marquez II. :nono:
     
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    True...

    Marquez DIDN'T Want it then, but he Appears to Want it NOW...


    REED:cool:
     
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    Wynn?

    It's finished.
     
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    I'd be happy with Valero/Pac
     
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    Yeah hiding from a guy who isn't even in the same weight division as himself. :notallthere:
     
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    Sounds good to me.

    :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
     
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    i guess pac wants to get KOed
     
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    Hiding make sense. If i were to say he is running from Diaz, than your post would make sense.
     
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    My post makes sense regardless. it's ignorant to say a guy is hiding when he has fought the competition that Manny has fought while moving up so many divisions. If someone's post don't make sense, take a look in the mirror.
     
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    Pacquiao/Valero would be fun but I wanna see the JMM rematch now.

    it was sickening watching the post fight interview when MAB announced Valero as the next great fighter. Saying if anybody wants to challenge him they should just challenge Valero instead because he will do all the fighting for Barrera now.:eeeek: :laughing:


    fucking joto should say retired.
     
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    Alright, so you have a fighter, who's trainer says that he cant make 130 anymore. Which basically means he is probably ready to move up. Then Diaz has his fight, and looks incredible. Now all of a sudden, Manny wants to stay at 130 and fight Valero? He is hidding in the 130 pound division.
     
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    LOL,Pacquiao getting Mayweather hate on here,that means he's too good and they cant' stand it.He beats fighters "boxing experts" on the internet say he can't beat,he makes fighters look bad when "experts" expect it to be the other way around:lol: I think he should stay at 130,he's too small for 135.I think he needs to take his training more seriously than he did for the Barrera II fight and he'll have no problems makin weight.
     
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    Exactly! I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Couldn't one say that Diaz is hiding in the 135lb divison. I mean I think that it's kinda weak that guys call out smaller fighters but yet They haven't even cleaned out their own division (not saying that he won't) but then won't speak about guys that are 5lbs north of him. By the way Pac is not hiding in the 130lb divison because that's where he currently fights at. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    He said he cant make the weight anymore man. Now all of a sudden he can?
     
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    I aint hating. I love Pac. But dont say you cant make weight anymore than Diaz fights, calls him out, than all of a sudden, he is okay to stay. Just smells like fear to me. I think he should stay at 130 too. Diaz wold whup his ass at 135. Not because he is better, but because he is just too big.
     
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    He made the weight just fine. If he didn't he wouldn't have come in looking like Erik Morales when he was extremely weight drained. He can make the weight and he will make the weight. Fighters and trainers say stupid shit all the damn time. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Another thing when is moving up enough enough. I mean when Hatton barely got by Collazo people bitched and complained that 147 was just way too big for him but yet people want Manny who started out at midget weight to keep moving up. I mean give the dude some slack cause he's earned it. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    what would be the point in saying that tho?
     
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    I said he should stay at 130
     
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    but nobody was asking for Manny to move up until Manny and Roach started in with the nonsense that he can no longer make 130.
     
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    Thats what im saying. Roach said he cant make the weight no more. Diaz looks terrific at 135, Calls Pac out in front of the world. Next thing you know, Pac is staying at 130. Something aint right. Hell after seeing diaz, If i were pac, i would stay right where i am.
     

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