Funny enough, about 60% of the retards on every boxing message board believed Tyson would take him.::
Lewis wasn't really hitting him with powershots. He was peppering Tyson with little punches. That's why Manny was getting all up in Lewis' ass for pulling that crap. If Lewis had actually come at Tyson in the Golota fashion, Tyson would've been out of there within 3 rounds.
Lewis was hammering Tyson with uppercuts in round 2. He slowed the pace and jabbed and pecked more in rounds 3-5, then started landing the brutal right crosses with consistency in round 6.
Actually...I think it was 100% of the retards. :: And now, of course, 99.5% of them claim they "knew" Tyson was going to lose but picked him anyway.
Tyson was throwing some hard shots and landing some (not too cleanly though) in round 9 after the KD. Then Douglas came back and hurt him in that round and had Tyson against the ropes and beat him up. Tyson started the 10th with a nice right hand that Douglas took well. Then Douglas stopped Tyson. I don't remember Tyson landing anything good on Holyfield or throwing big shots in the last couple rounds against Holyfield. He did some good work in round 5 I remember, but he was taking more chances and landing better stuff in the last few rounds against Douglas than he was against Evander I thought.
I will play Devils advocate because you are in no way convincing me a reason why Tyson was over the hill and a shell of himself when he fought Douglass, so i ask you exactly WHEN was his last fight in "prime", then we can go from there. And the thing about Roy was relevant because you are a Jones hater and using your rationale, Jones should be 10 times the fighter Tyson ever was, yes.....ten times and that's not an exaggeration.
dsimon writes: Yu have a personal issue with Tyson and thats cool, bless you for your instence on good character in the fighters you like. Mike was dominant when he was on top of his game, bully or not. Douglas beat Tyson with finesse not by smashing anything. Ruddock smashed the shit out of Tyson and Tyson won both those fights.
dsimon writes: Tyson is smart. He knew that Lewis was going up and that he was going down. Truth is Tyson always respected Lewis. he even wanted a tune up before their fight. There is a clip of Tyson doing commentary when Lewis was Ko'ed by Rahman and Tyson was actually very upset that Lewis got KO'ed. Tyson gave that fight to Lewis in so far as he knew he couldn't win it and did not mind losing to Lewis.
That would make sense if he didn't keep asking for another fight after lewis beat Rahman, and if Tyson didn't get intimidated when his license was an issue and try to blow the whole thing by starting a riot and acting out of control at a press conference.
dsimon writes: Dude your just trying to get the last word now so here it is my final say on the matter and they you can have at it. 1) What the fuck does Jones have to do with anything I posted!!! Why are you mischaracterizing me as a Jones whatever? When have I made my views on Jones explicit int his thread? My views on Jones fall in he middle I am neither a hater nor an idolizer. Instead of accusing me of being a Jones whatever if you want to know my view on Jones you can ask, I have no reason to lie. At any rate I never mentioned Jones except maybe responding to a point you mada about Jones,and I don't know what your angle is regarding Jones because I am talking about Tyson. 2) On a more civil note regarding Mike Tyson I don't really think it is that important regarding how good he was when he fought Douglas. At that point in his career if he had simply lost that fight and still been at the top of his game one could say that Tyson lost a fight, or that Tyson had a problem with a guy who could stay long and use his reach.... that is was an issue of style, or that he had a bad night. Great fighters lose fights, just ask Roy about guy named Montell.... there I mentioned Jones, happy?:: Mike's domination while he was champ speaks for itself though. Truth be told... technically he was going through a divorce, starting not to train properly, probably looking past Douglas. But hey Douglas was phenominal in beating Tyson that night. What you can't take from Tyson is that when he was the champion his skills, his intimidation and his total destruction of the opposition was phenominal. You want convincing? The best convincing is that at that time in boxing what people said... how long the average Tyson fight lasted, how Tyson looked in dismanling his opposition.
You simply crowned Tyson as an all-time great based on attributes, but not longevity , I simply used Jones as not only as a point of hypocrisy given your PAST responses about him, but also to use him as an anology to our current debate :dunno: You still never answered my question when Tyson's last fight was in his "prime" :dunno:
Oh, for the day when we'll be able to simply appreciate a boxer's talents and skills and simply discuss them. :doh:
The day you only have people sucking off their favorite boxers and nothing of the contrary brought up, is not a "forum" :nono:
dsimon writes: I tell you Donny the things we learn about ourselves! It is amazing. I never knew I hated Roy Jones and I never knew that Tyson was one of my favorite fighters. But apparently....::.
as often is the case when reading this message board, you have to wonder if some of these people watch boxing.
I mean really, how could someone say how Tyson cleaned out the division in his early twenties when he ducked Holy to fight Buster? Holy actually showed up to the fight when Tyson fought the Truth, Tyson said he didn't want to fight him next, Holy was like :dunno: So I guess I am supposed to assume Tyson was past it leading up to the "Truth" fight. For the "attributes" he had for a fighter, the longevity just doesn't match it :dunno: How's come?
End of Tyson prime-Spinks fight Rooney gets fired and had this to say about the Bruno fight- "Bruno rocks mike in the 1st round. I saw a HUNDRED mistakes-a HUNDRED" ________ Depakote Settlement
Whops! Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you were one of those folks that tries to talk up Holmes as an significant win for Tyson (and that always annoys me:: ) . I wouldn't say Holmes was as entirely washed up against Tyson as Ali was when he fought Holmes or Berbick...but he had been declining as early as 1983 and was nowhere near the fighter he was in his heyday. Anyway...sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.