PBF vs. Hatton | PBF/C. Hernandez or PBF/Castillo?

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  1. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

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    Which of these two fights does PBF/Hatton more closely resemble?

    PBF vs. C. Hernandez or Chavez

    PBF vs. Castillo

    Does anyone here really give Hatton a chance? What if Hatton grapples all night? How will PBF deal with that? Assuming he's not allowed to use his forearm the way he likes to?
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    IMO...Hatton will "try" to be all over Mayweather like J.Chavez...just trying to hit anything...arms/elbows/back/shoulders/thighs...anything...Chavez didn't have the power to do any damage...Hatton might have it..
     
  3. slystaff

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    Neither...it's a harder fight than Castillo as Hatton is a better fighter than Castillo: stronger, faster and beaten better fighters. Thankfully, for Floyd's sake...he's stronger now than he was when he fought Castillo and so he should be able to handle whatever power Ricky brings to the table.

    Hatton is actually Floyd's TOUGHEST fight, stylewise out of everyone in the Welterweight divisions not named Judah or De La Hoya. As a Floyd fan I'd rather he fought Mosley or Cotto...
     
  4. slystaff

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    But as Illuminati said...Chavez is the closest fight to what this would be...except Hatton is more powerful, bigger and stronger...and Floyd is stronger now and would be more motivated...
     
  5. Double L

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    i can't agree with any of this.
     
  6. slystaff

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    Doesn't stop it from being correct!
     
  7. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    why not?

    Hatton is faster and has beaten better fighters than Castillo..i'm not sure about the stronger part.....though..



    the Hatton being Floyd toughest fight other than Judah/DLH is SLY HYPING Mayweather next opponent bullcaca....:stir:
     
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    Floyd vs Jesus Chavez...

    Like Chavez, Hatton will B GAME & his AGGRESSION will Give the IMPRESSION that he's "Doing GOOD", EARLY...

    & just like the Chavez Fight, by the 3rd or 4th Round, Floyd will have Fully ACCLIMATED Himself to Hatton & a BEATING will Ensue...

    TIMING his Rushes, THWARTING his BodyAttack, JABBING Hatton Silly, Landing LEAD Rights Virtually @ Will...Hatton will Get Less & less Aggressive & Eventually Get STOPPED by the 8th or 9th Round...

    Either his CORNER or the REF will Stop It...SERIOUSLY, REED hopes Hatton's Mother DOESN'T Sit Ringside...This Shit could Get UGLY...

    Just like Floyd vs Jesus Chavez...

    REED:cool:
     
  9. Double L

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    arguably, Tszyu is better than anyone Castillo's beaten. but take Tszyu out, and Castillo's resume is much better than Hatton's. and I'm not even sure Tszyu is any more formidable than Corrales. And win or lose, Castillo was neck and neck with PBF on two occasions.
     
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    agREED...

    & Hatton DOESN'T...


    REED:nono:
     
  11. Eaner v2.0

    Eaner v2.0 WBC Champion

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    like who?

    other than Kostya I can't see it
     
  12. Double L

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    that's how i see it. however, hatton is considerably quicker and stronger than chavez, so it could depend on how much stronger PBF is than he was at 130 against Chavez.

    also, it's possible that whereas PBF's sharp counters were hurting Chavez, it remains to be seen whether or not Hatton will be discouraged by what has undeniably been a serious lack of punching power on the part of PBF.

    still. i agree that PBF will win and more easily than most people expect.
     
  13. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Damn i forgot about Corrales.....:doh:


    Castillo does have a better RESUME..(but not by much).....Hatton has the better VICTORIES...(by alot..Ko'Castillo & and made Tszyu say uncle"...
     
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    That's Entirely POSSIBLE...

    But Even if Floyd Can't "Hurt" Hatton, Per Se, he'll have NO Problems HITTING him & RIPPING UP that Tender Skin...

    Hatton's Undeniably TOUGH, but his Defense is SUBPAR & he SWELLS & BLEEDS Worse than MOST...



    REED:cool:
     
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    Yeah but you can't take Tszyu out. Tszyu is better than any beat Castillo opponent and guess what....CASTILLO is better than any beaten Castillo opponent. :lol:
     
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    As I said to Double L...what about Castillo himself? :lol:
     
  17. Double L

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    how about the fact that hatton's two best wins came against guys who were over the hill, and in tszyu's case, barely active?

    also, castillo never accomplished anything at 140. plus, unlike castillo, hatton hasn't cleaned out his division, or unified.

    still, i would like to see hatton/juan diaz - that'd be a good fight.
     
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    All Floyd has to do is land when Hatton reaches for the clinch. If Collazo can do it i see no way Floyd can't.
     
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    How exactly Tszyu is better than Corrales?
    Corrales has beaten: Castillo, Casamajor, Freitas....
    Tszyu never beaten anyone equal to any of the above.....well.......Judah might be Freitas' equal....but that's about it...
     
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    none. famoshito sucks. chavez was small and lacked power. castillo was more versatile.
     
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    Why doesn't Hatton have a chance??..ESPECIALLY if the referee pulls up some of Fraud's felonies early, like ways to escape fighting on the inside?.... how the fuck can Fraud be this overrated?...:dunno: ...Castillo originally inserted the bitch in Fraud and won 14 of 24 rounds, Judah knocked him down and won 5 rounds, Scrubdomir introduced the return of the bitch, in a performance that would've made old Vernon very proud,.. Sharmba's lateral and head movements made Fraud resort to flicking his elbow in defence, and unlike Tszyu, Fraud was restricted and flustered into throwing stomache shots, I aint even going to mention that sprinting split decision against this incredibly great version of the stiff legged staminaless fix-master. Fraud aint a fuckin' prime Roy Jones, no matter how hard you all wish him to be, he's not dominant, or in that class whatsoever. The likely scenario is that Fraud sprints, forearms, and turns his back on his way to another "close" unimpressive decision, it will be a stink carnival, but his groupies will refuse to admit the reality that he aint no 'gap-filler' for a broken heart, he's Corey Spinks with an undefeated record at Castillo's expense, his next opponent will also apparently have "no chance"..:rolleyes:
     
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    Hatton probably doesn't win, but fuck me if he isn't getting a load of bollix from you guys prior to this fight...

    I actually think he is PBF's stylistic nightmare, just as he was Kostya's: he can walk through enough big, BIG shots to make this fight a mess, and a mess is where he can win this. He is strong as f*ck, tough as f*ck and if he draws PBF into a brawl then we have some fun...

    If this fight was at 140, I'd take Ricky, but at 147, it should be PBF's. But it'll be a shed load closer than a lot of you lot reckon...

    MTF
     
  23. Eaner v2.0

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    thats arguable or did you forget he beat Casamayor? One could argue that Casamayor was the better fighter against JLC and also that Casamayor is a better win for JLC than Tszyu is for Hatton
     
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    I understand what you are saying but the one thing you have to remember is that PBF knows how to move and he also doesn't need space to get his punches off. Whereas Zoo needs space and doesn't have very good foot movement. I'll Holla 5000
     
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    Plus, Zoo is a front-runner, whereas Floyd is not.
     
  26. slystaff

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    No. You can't argue that.

    Casamayor had already been beaten by both Frietas and Corrales...and was a naturally smaller man than Castillo to boot. In what way could it be argued that he was a better win that Tszyu was for Hatton?
     
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    famosito is a legend :slap:

    he scored a knockdown on Floyd and gave him a hard fight for 12 rounds.

    chavez got stopped for taking too much of a beating.:dunno:
     
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    Steve Forbes gave Hernandez the best knockdown I've ever seen,.. talk about REEEEEEEEEEEEEEELING backwards,..Forbes had him on the dragline that day, he had Hernandez snagged by his tackle, and you know it...:crafty: it was gruelling for you,... "Come on Ike, even you said it was a good fight"..
     
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    Steve Forbes lost that fight because the idiot fought it in a phone booth.

    Had he boxed maybe he would have done better. Then again he lost his tittle being 20 pounds over so maybe he wouln't have the energy back then to move around.:lol:

    :flip:
     
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    :nono: That's what makes Steve Forbes a great fighter, he fought Hernandez at his own game, and OUTSLUGGED him, evidence testament to the great highlight REEEEEEEEEEL, c'c'c'c'clickclickclickclick,..(:crafty: you know the one) as Hernandez jerked back like a spooked horse, and seemed to sliiiiide on backwards into the ropes, not bad for someone with a 10% ko ratio,..and because Steve fought in a phone booth it gave the El Salvadorian press it's prejudice headline, "Fought in phone-booth, uncharacteristic of him and it lead to his downfall" despite having got the better of the exchanges and blasting Infamoso up the walls at will.
     

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