PBF's win over ODH was...

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Double L, Oct 28, 2007.

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How do you characterize the biggest win of PBF's career?

  1. Disgraceful

    6.5%
  2. Less than impressive

    16.1%
  3. Stink-job; he fought "not" to lose;

    38.7%
  4. Impressive

    38.7%
  1. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    you say the same thing about EVERY Floyd fight, though.

    And it's quite possible - neither fighter has been in anything remotely resembling an exciting fight in quite some time. The atmosphere and the knockout itself in the Castillo fight were the only elements of excitement in what was otherwise yet another difficult to watch Hatton hit-and-clinch fest.

    Floyd's not exciting unless he's 100% certain that he's knocking you out/stopping you (Mitchell, Gatti, N'Dou).

    In fact, the only way for Hatton to win is to maul the hell out of Floyd. Whereas Floyd's best chance of winning is to pot shot Ricky all night.
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    BTW don't we have a future sig bet regarding the potential level of excitement in Floyd-Hatton?
     
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    Indeed :lol:

    Neither of which are going to be exciting. I am still looking forward to it, just to root for Hatton and hope he mauls Floyd into the ground.

    But it's more the potential result I am looking forward to, not the fight itself.
     
  4. Neil

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    I'd characterize it as a necessary evil for the career advancement of Mayweather.

    only dullards who were hoping and praying (or even worse expecting) for this part timer to knock out and expose mayweather were clamoring for this bout like it was going to have fireworks.

    to call it the biggest win of the guys career is a joke also. publicity wise sure it was, in that case I guess we can safely say the gatti victory was "bigger" than either fight with castillo, or the corrales victory.

    all that fight showed was that one of the greatest lightweights ever could win 2/3 of the rounds against a washed up part timer who was once a good welterweight, historically in the grand scheme of things.
     
  5. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Actually by saying Floyd had no chance to beat Oscar, that makes it an impressive performance does it not? I mean Floyd couldn't possibly win (your words not mine).
     
  6. LOK

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    Very Impressive

    fighting a bigger guy with a lot of experience and Floyd stunned DLH but was never "hurt" himself

    I don't get the "stunk it out" comments...

    some people act as if they should have went toe to toe and brawled...

    these guys are both great "boxers" and a chess match is what I expected but with Floyd dominating.. which he did! :bears:
     
  7. dymipepel

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    Exactly. By Double's own reasoning, Floyd's performance is one of the greatest in history. How often does someone who is given NO CHANCE at all against a great fighter, like ODLH, and then goes on to school the said fighter?
     
  8. Neil

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    you can never gauge greatness by a boxer merely defying the outlandish theories of the ignorant.
     
  9. joony

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    if floyd's a joke, then what does that make castillo?
     
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    Fraud's stinking, sprinting, backtwisting, split decision over the worst version of De La Hoya, who was Felix Sturm's bitch a long time ago we shant forget, further clarifies how superior Shane Mosely is over Fraud in every department you can imagine. Fraud has an unstable plethora of temporary "clingers" attached to that '0',... it's like the direction of mecca to desperate ex-Jones groupies, when the sad and undeterred reality is, that Shane has, and always will be the better fighter, for example, Shane butchers the shit out of Fraud's paper resume with eeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase.

    Thus far Im the only one that's picked disgraceful, based on the accolades Fraud recieved through 2006, I mean, some genuinely claimed that he was the greatest of all-time??... so,..ay,..take a captain cook at this fight.
     
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    The DLH fight certainly would be a poor "Exhibit A" when making a case 4 all-time greatness.
     
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    Well too bad Cotto has 0 charisma. He really should be doing Trinidad numbers. He already can sell out the garden. Now he just needs to get a PPV audience.
     
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    I thought it was an OK win for Floyd. Nothing amazing like some claim. I say this because I picked Floyd to outbox Oscar with ease. Sure the name Oscar Delahoya carries alot of weight but he is not even close to the fighter he once was. Let's not pretend Floyd fought the Oscar from 99-2000

    If you gave Floyd no chance then you have to be amazed at his performance because he proved you wrong. however I thought he did what he had to against an old Delahoya who like Floyd also started at 130 just happened to start his carreer earlier and moved up to 147-154 earlier.

    I do think Floyd could have done more in the ring once he realized he was so much faster and skilled than Oscar. He even admits he could have done better so obviously is not out of line to say that about Floyd:dunno:

    I thought he should have taken more chances because of the stage he was fighting at. We all know how good he is and has been. But to be compared to an all time great you can't just win doing enough and expect some legendary status. Doesn't work that way. :dunno:

    I though Shane who Floyd considers inferior to him beat Oscar more convincing and closer to his prime. So why should I be amazed by anybody beating Oscar at this stage? Expecially by the best fighter in the world. :dunno:
     
  14. Erratic

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    It was a decent win.

    I'll give him credit for the fact that Oscar is the bigger man and Floyd really has no business fighting at junior middle.

    But it wasn't exactly an impressive performance, to say the least.
     
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    the four choices are totally meaningless....disgraceful compared to what? Impressive compared to what?

    I voted impressive because any guy who is naturally a junior welterweight getting a win over Oscar @ 154lb, even a past prime Oscar is damn impressive. But then I found the performance Oscar gave impressive as well because Im impressed by world class ahletes as we all should be, especially world class fighters. Neither man looked as good as they could have or like they really left everything in there. Neither was impressive in anything like the way Leonard and Hearns were impressive. The choices are shit.:dunno:
     
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    Yeah, I guess it all depends on how you want to look at it.

    On the positive side, you can say:

    Mayweather- beat a bigger guy who still has solid skills, while fighting at a new weight class and giving up whatever concessions Oscar demanded in the contract.

    De La Hoya- not been active lately, past his prime, and gave the p4p king a competitive fight and showed very good defense.

    If you're more negative, you can say:

    Mayweather- too conservative, struggled to land with any consistency against a part-time fighter, possibly lost 4 of the first 7 rounds.

    De La Hoya- gassed 2/3 of the way thru the bout, lost to a smaller guy who was @ 130 when De La Hoya started fighting at 154, the contract and conditions of the fight were in Oscar's favor.

    I guess it just depends on how you look at it or if you feel like being positive or negative.
     

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