2.4 Million buys :eeeek: Rafael reports in his article: "HBO said with the buys now fully accounted for, the fight actually generated 2.4 million buys and $134.4 million in domestic PPV revenue, bringing the total revenue for the event to approximately $165 million." Quoted by ESPN, HBO PPV chief Mark Taffet stated: "It is common for early pay-per-view tallies to rise once all the buys are counted, but the magnitude of the boost came as a surprise. Taffet went on to add: "When you're talking about a record, with numbers that are so big, you want to get it exactly right, and it takes a long time to count to 2.4 million.".
The fight just didn't live up to the hype.:dunno: If it had been as awesome as Oscar/Mosley I, that'd have been amazing for the sport.
:: Floyd has personality? A crybaby fake wannabe thug? Come on rj, I honestly think Shane even without opening his mouth is more marketable than Floyd could ever be.
How you figure. Floyds one fight with Oscar done more buys then Shanes 2 fights. Like you always say it takes 2. Shane is not more marketable then Floyd. Don't let hate get in the way of that opinion.
They spent like a bazillion dollars in just marketing that DLH/Floyd fight, rj. With all the pre-fight HBO 24/7 stuff. Floyd/Oscar did 2.4 mill buys. Does that mean Floyd now is a bigger draw than guys like Tyson, Holyfield, Leonard and them? Without Oscar, Floyd is a 300K ppv fighter at best. I honestly think and still do that once Floyd loses that undefeated streak, a whole chunk of his enigma is gone. He was in Roy Jones' shadow for most of these years. When Roy was taken out and the P4P lists had to be updated, fans put their full attention on Floyd. And he's more of a guy people want to see KTFO more than anything.
Shane should have been a bigger draw than he turned out to be, but it never happened. I know boxing's not the most mainstream sport but he had two victories over the sport's biggest star, one of them being a very entertaining fight, and seems to be personable and likeable. For some reason, he never became much of a draw. Floyd's the bigger draw/PPV guy.
The ppv buys for Floyd/Baldomir and Floyd/Judah prove my point. Floyd isn't anywhere near the draw of the past greats. Nobody outside of boxing knows or cares about Floyd.
Shane used to be that, but fought on plain HBO against the likes of Shannon Taylor, Adrian Stone, and Antonio Diaz in ballrooms. Mosley could never really become much of a draw, which was dissapointing and a little puzzling because he's generally a rather entertaining fighter with a likeable personality.
He was just on DWTS. Them fights happened pre De la Hoya. Shane done 450,000 with Vargas post De la Hoya. That was with Vargas after he fought Oscar. Lets see what numbers Floyd can do with a guy without a fanbase in America.
Nobody outside of boxing in America cares about any fighters other than Oscar De La Hoya, and the 40+ heavyweights Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. Floyd's no crossover star, but he's still a bigger PPV draw than Shane Mosley.
Shane has gotten his ass kicked in back to back fights and still drew respectable numbers on ppv. He's 35 years old now. Floyd hasn't gotten his ass kicked yet, who knows how much of a blow it'll be to his ppv drawing power if he were to step in there and get owned by somebody like Winky Wright twice in a row. Not only would he lose his macho attitude, the ppv numbers would decrease.
Well if Floyd had a fight with Winky it would be on PPV. Shanes fights with Winky were on regular HBO.
But Shane's always had the benefit of having a bankable fighter in the other corner for all of his PPV headliners. Oscar was the draw in both of their fights, and the Vargas fights were Shane-Vargas collobarations, not one or the other being a particularly big draw on their own. And even at that, the rematch had a significant drop off from the first fight. If Shane was that much of a draw on his own, then at least one of the Winky fights would've wound up on PPV. Hell as it was, they had the first one on HBO, despite Shane coming off of the 940,000 or so PPV buy in the Oscar rematch AND the 1st Wink fight being the first time all three major titles would be unified @ 154. Compare that to Floyd-Baldomir, where the ONLY selling point was Floyd challenging for the linear welterweight title, and still pulling in a respectable 325,000 PPV buys. Not to mention that the crowd, which was dismissed as a disappointing turnout, was still twice as many as Shane's fight w/ Collazo three months later in the same arena. Shane-Baldomir would've been a box-office disaster. You mock Floyd's PPV sales w/o Oscar, but Floyd never had a solid PPV attraction in the other corner to help out. Don't say Gatti, because it was the only PPV he ever headlined. Ditto for Zab, who was also coming off of an embarrassing loss against Baldomir.
Not only is Floyd a better fighter and a better person, than Shane, he's also a bigger draw!! Good one for all the nice guys out there! :clap:
It wasnt just the 24/7 shit that got people buying, it was the constant commercials. Everytime i watched Television, i saw the dela Hoya, Mayweather, dela hoya, mayweather commercial. only people who have HBO saw the 24/7 thing.
Then that shows more than ever that boxing isn't dead; everyone's just being lazy. If a fight with one known and one unknown can be the best selling PPV in history, then they should EASILY have been able to trump up two known track records (in terms of style, not necessarily opposition) like Pavlik-Taylor or Calzaghe-Kessler and had it on PPV. Showtime the same thing with Vasquez-Marquez this year. I think THAT's the biggest issue that's swept under the rug; why do networks only feel compelled to work for pre-bought investments and HOPE they're profitable, when they could do it for ANYONE worth a damn? Or to use the old metaphor, why are they constantly complaining about the cows they bought when it's obvious they know how to get the milk and sell it for a profit? :dunno:
No shit but the revisionists already want to say it was because of Floyds personality and "potential" drawing power :laughing:
Yeah, I heard that ODH walked away with $58 million and Floyd skated with $32 million...... Can anyone verify????
