Lacy vs Kessler? Who wins?

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  1. valdosta

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    Nice try but I never made an official pick. In fact Donnybrook IM'ed me right before the fight asking who I picked and I said toss up although forced to pick I take calzaghe.

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    Kessler is not bigger and stronger.

    He is an inch taller, but I bet Calzaghe weighs more tomorrow.

    Don't forget how easily Calzaghe manhandled the bodybuilder man Lacy. He is far, far stronger than he looks.

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    I agree about Calzaghe's strength. he is a lot stronger than people think. Besides the lacy fight you have the bika fight to. Bika is nothing else if not strong but Calzaghe was just as strong. The closer this fight has gotten the more I think Calzaghe may win.
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  2. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    Right thats what i thought. The fight went down like i said.
     
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  4. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    You didn't pick Calzaghe outright. Thats like a typical Donny prediction. Cover all bases in case you are wrong.
     
  5. valdosta

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    So, tell me again how the people in this thread picked the fight wrong? That don't look like a wrong pick to me.
     
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    You can't call it right either. You obviously thought Kessler was gonna win at some point if you are saying when this fight gets closer i think Calzaghe may win. Saying a guy may win isn't a prediction its a way of covering yourself if that guy loses. Now if you said Calzaghe WILL win and put it in the prediction thread then i would acknowledge it.
     
  7. Donnybrook

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    :rolleyes: That's not what I do, but that was funny. :clap:

    I can vouch for Dosta...he went with Calzaghe.

    True Brit also picked Calzaghe.

    Are you listening to yourself? How old are you?

    "I got this fight right, so now everyone has to believe every fight will go as I say it will, and whoever picked this fight wrong don't know nuthin' bout boxing." :lol:

    You got one fight correct. Great for you - congratulations. Well done, seriously. :clap:

    Plenty of us have gotten plenty of other fights correct as well.

    You sound like a 5th grader at the playground.

    We can have a discussion without you trying to pull an infantile trump card.

    At the end of the day we ALL get fights right and wrong.

    So?

    "That's right...that's what I thought! Yeah!" :lol:
     
  8. valdosta

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    Like I said, ask Donny who I picked when he IM'ed me. It was VERY tentatively and to me the fight was a toss up. REGARDLESS, that is not a wrong pick, is it?
     
  9. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    Hey im sorry if i came accross like that but honestly it's ironic because i kinda fought you guys came accross the same way when you kept saying that Lacy has no chance against Kessler. I didn't even say Lacy would win, i just said he would make it a war and be competitive. Then i listed reasons as to why it would be competitive.

    As for True Brit i wasn't talking about him because i wasn't debating Lacy-Kessler with him was I. As for Valdosta Im happy he sent you a PM regrading the fight. However he didn't exactly make it clear cut as to who he was picking hopefully next time he can put it in the prediction thread. When you say a guy may win or a team may win its not a solid prediction. Its just a way or suggesting an outcome.

    He may win. He will win. You see the difference.
     
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    Lacy's peeked already,he would get smoked
     
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    Actually Lacy would give Kessler a much harder fight than you realize.

    Kessler's got great fundamentals...much better than Lacy, obviously...but Kessler's predictable like clockwork as a result and he's not very fast.

    Lacy could make it rough for him.

    Kessler by decision...but 7-5.
     
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    You are correct. Donnybrook is wrong in this instance.
     
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    Very easy win for Kessler. Lacy would run into that counter right time and time again. Kessler is much too precise and it takes way too long for Lacy to load up with his shots. One-sided beating in favor of the Dane
     
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    Ok..now let's pretend something.

    Let's say the styles were exactly the same, but Kessler was the black American and Lacy was the white European. Would your prediction be the same? :lol:
     
  15. Andrew

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    What fights did Lacy shows definitively thats hes a harder puncher or faster, not to mention hes not bigger.
     
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    Of course not. In that situation Lacy would be the great offensive machine that is impossible to hit and Kessler would be a slow and open target :notallthere:
     
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    Trying to overcompensate for the denigration of European fighters by Americans is your MO. That's the primary reason why you exist on this forum.

    That's why you started the "Rudolf Eichman" alias...and that's what you're all about.
     
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    What a great mod you are :bears:
     
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    Thanks. :clap:
     
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    Kesslet knocks the shit out of Lacy.
     
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    RACIST!
     
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    :nono: TKO's just keeping it real. Don't be calling people racists that have no history of that on these forums. People don't alway pick according to race.
     
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    Horse stuff is fine, but we already agreed to keep that type of stuff out of GD and MM. The reason is that it leads easily into smacktalk. I could respond with the more accurate description that you look like a bear...and the thread degenerates from there...see what I mean?

    Sorry I hurt your feelings and you felt the need to attempt to retaliate....but I had to tell it like it is.

    Stick to trying to win a boxing discussion. if you can....
     
  26. Orthodox Crusader

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    Compare Kessler to that guy that Jeff nearly lost to after the Calzaghe fight.

    Kessler is too tall, too fast, too straight, too powerful and too precise.

    He would land, and, IMHO, against a faded version of Jeff, that would be enuff.
     
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    Lacy has been and always will be too in love with his "power" to ever blossom into the type of fighter that could beat someone at the skill level of Kessler or Calzaghe. He's a one trick "left hook" pony who had too many pushovers early to ever get out of that mold. Kessler wins easy.
     
  28. mexican wedding shirt

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    Absolutely no way Lacy has faster hands than Kessler. Kessler looked a little faster than expected actually, against a VERY fast super middle in Calzaghe.

    Kessler wouldn't beat Lacy quite as easily as Calzaghe did, but he would still beat him easily. Lacy is incredibly basic, and really just not that good.

    Lacy against Andrade is probably a pick em fight.
     
  29. whiskey

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    Kessler would detonate his right hand on Lacy's dome repeatedly. I'd be surprised if it went the distance.
     
  30. steve_dave

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    Not a competive fight. Kessler kills him.
     

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