Why didn't Kessler fight more rounds the same way he fought the 12TH?

In the last round he turned it up and won that round. Why didn't he do it more often? Was he conserving energy? What was it?

 

No bro, when you are getting the shit punched out of you under and over to the head and body, it takes the steam out of your attack and the body commitment to your shots.
The body shots hurt your punching muscles and you are forced to throw arm punches as a result of getting hit underneath as it is a terrible feeling.
The kid did his best last night versus perhaps the greatest European fighter ever.

 

Stamina.

From being punched, especially to the body...and from perhaps not being used/prepared for that kind of fight.

It's easier said than done.

Like I said...I think Kessler learned alot from this fight, which is why he's so keen on a rematch.

Peace.

 

I doubt that Kessler will get a rematch, but I think he could win. I certainly don't agree with Emanual Steward when he pretty much said that Kessler should forget about fighting Calzaghe again because Kessler would never win.

 

Yeah....my initial impression was that he shouldn't, but the more I've thought about it, the more I think he has a legitimate shot.

At the very least, it would be yet another great fight, no doubt about it.

There's a reason Calzaghe literally said "no...because you would only improve. I don't like rematches."

Damn, that was honest. ::

 

It was a good, competetive fight. It wasn't a bloodbath with one fighter getting his ass kicked but fighting on guts, and it wasn't a sloppy mess. The fight was basically a match between two talented fighters, with experience and preparedness being the difference in my opinion. Isn't that what boxing needs to come off less as a side-show, or bloodsport, and more as a sporting event?

 

Amen, brother. :clap:

Some people are insisting it was so one-sided....I saw a different fight entirely.

I thought it was a GREAT, competitive figh with a clear winner...especially given Kessler's very late-rounds rally and Calz upping his game despite being tired to hold him off.

Great stuff. Both guys showed stuff they hadn't before, in victory and defeat.

Peace.

 

Anyone who thought this fight was easy or one sided, most likely hasn't seen another fight in their life. This was arguably the toughest fight of Calzaghe's life and he had to rely on all his guile and versatility to pull out the win. There were stages in that fight where it appeared as if Kessler was getting on top and beginning to assert himself as the dominant fighter in center ring.

There are still big things ahead for both fighters.

 

Boxing in real life is not like a video game you can't just button-tap for half an hour

 

I agree with Emanuel Steward.

It was always a fight I couldn't see Kessler winning...

 

I think Steward was trying to sell/arrange the next fight for HBO- a fight that doesn't include Kessler.

I'd like to see a rematch because it was a competetive fight. I don't think that Calzaghe could improve on his performance. But if Kessler could improve on his performance, it could be a very interesting fight.

 

it "might" favor calzaghe, "possibly."

-steward

the guy's an idiot.

 

Steward is mostly rubbish as a commentator, I'd have to agree, the guy alternates between being plain wrong, coming out with cliches and truisms, and making sure he hedges his bets any time he's required to make a call....

 

I think the answer to this question is as follows: Kessler did what he did for the same reasons Collazo did what he did against Hatton: he was waiting for the big finish at the end. Impresses judges, and allows you to bottle up a rounds energy for a final all out assault. I think Kesslers failed because Joe had avoided taking too much of a battering over the first 11, and had actually won the 11th handily. Now, if Kessler had won the 11th and then set out in the 12th the same way...different story maybe.

 

McClarnen, Jimmy Wilde, Benvenuti, Wlad Klitschko, Cerdan....you think he is ahead of these guys just yet??

 

:notallthere: Wlad?.. he might have 8 years to go yet.

 

Kessler turned it up because Calzaghe turned it down in rd 12

 

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Wladimira shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as Joe. Calzaghe by FAR better/greater.

 

dsimon writes:

To borrow an oeuvre from master Donny I am on the fence on this one::. On the one hand I think Karl makes an excellent point about the effects of heavy hands landing on the body.... and we know at least one body shot really hurt Kessler and there were more... a lot more, as Calzighe was not simply throwing punches to impress Lampley!

On the other hand my gut tells me that Kessler will only go so far, will only get so uncivil and mean spirited... and that Calzighe will do more in a pinch. Kessler reminds me of a classical musician who brought a clarinet to a jazz sax fight.... Yes he makes adjustments but can the guy improvise? Can he dig deep and take risks when he needs to? Like a lot of orthodox guys he can change strategies and he can change gears, but he needs to find a way to dig deep.... and if he never does he will be a good fighter and probably win because of his talent. But to beat a great fighter, like Joe, I think he needs that something extra.

But Kessler is willing to learn and both Toney and Hops got owned by a certain great fighter that is pretty popular on these boards:: so he probably could find a way and I hope he does.

 

Wilde and Cerdan I'll give you, I mentioned Marcel on the radio show.
Joe rates way higher than both bros Klit.
Jimmy McLarnin was American, he was from Irish descent.
Nino?
Come on bro, Joe rates higher than him, and I liked Nino.

 

I think it was a combination of things...

Firstly, stamina was definately an issue. IMO, Kessler looked knackered from 8 to has last hurrah in the 12th. That is not to slight the guy, but merely to point out that, it seemed to me at least, his energy levels decreased dramatically after 7.

At the time , I actually wondered how much of this apparent fatigue was mental. In the 4th, Mikkel caught Joe flush with some seriously hard, straight and accurate shots, but Joe never really flinched Ditto round 7. I wondered then, and still do now, whether or not this started to put some doubts into Mikkel's mind and caused him to slow right down. I'm not saying he pussied out or anything dumb like that, you understand, but simply saying that I was surprised that he seemed to run out of steam, because I didn't expect him to do so at all.

Sometimes the mind takes control of the muscles...

Another factor is that, from rounds 8-11, Joe simply adjusted to Mikkel better than Mikkel did Joe, and made himself a lot harder to hit whilst hitting more himself. It is difficult to land flush shots when your opponent is buzzing round you throwing fast combinations into your head and body.

Mikkel himself has said that Calzaghe hit him with a body shot which took the wind out of him so badly that he felt the fight turned on it: he just couldn't recover.

All of these probably contributed to the fight changing as it did in Joe's favour, but the 12th was, IMO, simply a good, good fighter overcoming all of the above and throwing the dice for a final time. Mikkel knew he had to score the KO to win, and so he just 'went for it' with what he had left.

Fair play to him- he would have had to have dug deep to do it, but to do it for three minutes in the 12th is one thing: to commit round after round to that would have been impossible. Utterly impossible

MTF

 

I agree. And to take a quote from Dennis Green regarding Kessler prior to him fighting Calslappy. "If you wonna crown his ass then crown his ass". To me I didn't see anything special in Kessler that would lead me to believe that he could beat Calzaghe. I mean yes he was undefeated and feasted on Joe's left overs but other than that his hype didn't match his skills. For all we know he can be overrated like the Euro dude Chad Dawson beat that so many were crowning. I'll Holla 5000

 

Which of Joe's leftovers did he feast on?

 

Bigdawg doesn't really follow boxing.

 

:: Must admit I had the same thought.

 

evidently, bigdawg isn't on the teenybopper bandwagon for nothing :doh:

 

I don't know where the fuk I got that from but that makes it even worst then what I thought. Hell he really should not have been crowned the way he was since he didn't even fair against some of the mediocre cats that Joe fought. I'll Holla 5000

 

I follow it enought to have not crowned Kessler like many of you guys. So since I picked Calzaghe to win due to the fact that I didn't think that Kessler had the skills nor the big name fights under his belt to win the fight. Guess I know a little something about the sport. I'll Holla 5000

 

you picked Calzagne cos he was the number 1 guy in the division :: same reason you like any other fighter, kid :kick:

 

Sorry, Bigdawg, but...::