Cotto's chin! How good is it?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Hex-One, Nov 12, 2007.

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Rate Cotto's chin!

  1. Great

    2 vote(s)
    5.6%
  2. Good

    27 vote(s)
    75.0%
  3. Suspect

    6 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Glass!

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  1. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He was hurt against Mitchell, but the guy has pretty good recuperative power and he's tough as nails. He got caught with a punch he didn't expect against Mitchell, a big puncher, no shame in that. I liken it to Mosley getting caught while pulling straight back by a big right hand he didn't expect at all, it doesn't mean the guy can't take a punch, not at all.
     
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  2. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He wasn't hurt (at all) from what I saw. It was just pure physics that knocked him down. I don't think God has invented a supermiddle that wouldn't have gotten knocked down if he was in the position Calzaghe was when Mitchell hit him with the shot he did.

    Otoh, people are calling Cotto's chin good and even 'great'? Wtf? Cotto gets hit flush and he's shown he can get hurt. Joe gets hit flush and he's shown he can't. Whatever level you put Calzaghe on, Cotto is at least a full level lower and imo 2.
     
  3. LEGENDARY

    LEGENDARY Leap-Amateur

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    Cotto now has a decent set of whiskers, the weight drain that was affecting his body also affected how he dealt with the opponents punches. He may still get buzzed but it wont show as bad because he isn't draining himself and is able to recover alot faster.
    That Uppercut that landed flush would have floored quite a few Mosley foes.
    Good chin.
    B-
     
  4. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Well, I suggest you to rewatch it and look at his expression and body movement when he got up. http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Calzaghe+Mitchell/video/x1kdyx_joe-calzaghe-v-byron-mitchell_sport

    I agree he came back hard and seemed to recover pretty fast, but IMHO, Joe was hurt. I disagree partly with your last point , yes Cotto can be hurt and he isn't on the same level as Joe in that department but nobody with a chin less than good can be unbeaten after the competition he faced.
     
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    Get the fuck out of here with that shit
     
  6. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    He was the anti-williams... short and does not throw any punches.:lol:
     
  7. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    :lol: Good one Dsimon!
     
  8. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    but he was GOLDEN...someone with a name like that most be GREAT...GOLDEN.

    Floyd Mayweather..........or....Golden Johnson...? Who sound like a winner? Golden.....
     
  9. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    no..
     
  10. myelmers

    myelmers Leap-Amateur

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    this is just not true. He has proven that he can be rocked/dropped OFTEN as long as someone finds that chinny chin chin. He has a solid defense, which keeps him from getting hit on the chin much, but his resistance is not very good.
     
  11. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    dropped/rocked often.....:rolleyes: he might be stun often..like in the Judah fight/first round...but rocked like in the Corley fight...or dropped like in the Torres fight....NO...
     
  12. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    Glass
     
  13. phonetap

    phonetap Undisputed Champion

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    the shots cotto landed on mosley's chin he couldn't take himself...cotto's chin is adequate, not great by any strech of the imagination.
     
  14. Father of Muzse

    Father of Muzse Undisputed Champion

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    What was interesting about the fight is, Shane hurt Cotto to the body FAR more than he hurt him to the head. Cotto did a good job of keeping his hands up and not getting hit flush on the chin. The solid shots Shane landed to the head hit him cheek high rather than on the chin.
     
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    phonetap Undisputed Champion

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    yup...cotto kept those hands planted on his chin. you called it right when you elaborated that body punchers typically don't take it well in return. shane could have gotten cotto to drop those hands if he dug more shots to the body throughout the fight. but hey shane is 36 and maybe that's too much to ask at this point in his career...shit he had cotto right where he wanted him...backing up and couldn't pull the trigger effectively. don't know about you, but phonetap would like to see shane retire.
     
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    Father of Muzse Undisputed Champion

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    agREED.

    There's nothing left for Shane to prove. His chin is his best/worst attribute. Some of the shots he took would have stopped damn near anyone else.
     
  17. SRR

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    I think Cotto has a decent chin, but really good recuperative powers.

    BTW, he seems to be hurt by the left hands (straight, hooks, etc.), and not so much by the right hands. This was the case with Torres, Corley, and Judah.
     
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    I voted 'good'- his punch resistance, certainly, has increased greatly since he started campaigning at 147 and stopped being weight-drained...

    To be honest, though, is the answer not reasonably obvious? Really, can you win world titles and beat fighters like those Cotto has if you don't have a good chin at least? :dunno:

    Not IMO you can't.

    MTF
     
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  19. bigdawg

    bigdawg Undisputed Champion

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    I personally think that Cotto's chin is damn good. Yes Cotto has been dropped and yes he's been hurt. However this is boxing and those types of things happen. The point is has that changed his fighting style and does he still believe in his chin. He still applies hella pressure and he still has faith in his chin which tells me that his chin solid. I'll Holla 5000
     
  20. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    I am old fashioned. You can knock a guy down, you can hit a guy so he stops throwing punches.... There is a difference. Knock downs don't mean shit if a guy can get up and keep going. Louis get knocked down all the time, it never stopped him from punching and doing his thing. The man defended his title how many times?

    When I see a punch stop Cotto from doing his thing I will say his chin isn't great. As of yet it has not happened and he has fought some punchers... Shane is a PUNCHER Judah is a puncher, Torres can punch.
     

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