whos picking hatton

just want to know. would be interesting if some respected posters were going with him.

 

I'm not a respected poster in the General Forum anymore, but seriously, I have a real feeling he's going to force a stoppage over Mayweather around 10, 11th round.
Mayweather may combo pot-shot and jab away at Hatton for the majority of the fight but sooner or later, Hatton will get in close and then I wanna see how Mayweather's defence hold up against Hatton's ferocious onslaught. Forget slow-ass Chavez and Castillo and Baldomir.
No way in hell does Mayweather stop Hatton, unless he opens up a really nasty cut.

Official, never-to-be-changed prediction: Hatton TKO11 Mayweather

 

:warning:

 

I edited the description....not the prediction.

 

I'm picking Fraud by spectacular first round KO to finish off my delightful year...:crafty:

 

dsimon writes:

I think I may be going with the upset and picking Hatton. I am doing so for a number of reasons:

1) This is one of those fights where even smart people don't seem to recognize the danger that a guy like Hatton poses to Mayweather. The biggest difference is that Ricky, when he is not dry humping shoots right into the gap, he is amazingly fast at smothering a puncher. Hatton punches into this gap and comes in at angles. Mayweather will have a very tough time countering him. Ricky is fast enough to make it work as well.

See a guy like Cotto who is a fast and great puncher cannot get into this space against Mayweather and would be countered and potshotted by Floyd all night before he ever could get a punch off.... especially since he comes straight in.

2) People underestimate Ricky's punching power and speed. His actual handspeed is probably as fast as Floyd's and he might be as good a body puncher as Cotto.

3) My final reason for picking Hatton is: If any one of these guys can take Floyd before he starts to miss a step or two, it would imo be Hatton. So I might as well pick the one guy out of the group who I think could win. I just don't see Floyd's style working against Hatton.

And Floyd is underestimating Hatton as well. Hatton may have had to adjust upwards but at the end of the day he is a strong guy and maybe his punches are more effective than Floyd realizes.

I like both guys I just hope its a good scrap in the end.

 

You meant to say, 'Cotto might be as good a body puncher as Hatton'.
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I'm picking Hatton.

 

After watching Caamayor escape with a win last weekend, I wouldn't put it past Golden Boy-selected judges to score one Ricky's way next month.

My biggest hangup with the fight is that if Ricky wins, the biggest boxing rumor is Hatton-GLH on May 3, 2008.

Floyd might have to knock out/stop Hatton in order to win, and I'm not convinced that will happen. With that, I'm getting the feeling that even winning 8 or 9 rounds won't be enough for Floyd to leave with his championship status or undefeated record still intact. Hell, winning eight rounds against Oscar was barely enough to take a split decision. Fool me once, shame on you... and all that good stuff.

On paper, Floyd UD would be my official pick. But for some reason, I'm thinking a safer pick would be Hatton SD or a draw.

Unless, of course, Millie greenlights a GLH-Cotto fight next year, in which case Ricky has to win this one all on his own

 

hatton can make this an ugly wrestling match and perhaps get a gift draw.

i doubt it tho.

 

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to give up on boxing. :doh:

That being said, PBF in my mind will be able to land cleaner/more often on Hatton than he did on DLH....so there's hope that that translates to a fairer decision.

We can all pray. Whoever wins, it should be a fair decision <insert naivete here>.

Peace.

 

:clap: These are some of the reasons, along with those I have stated elsewhere recently, why I am going to follow my gut instead of my head and pick Hatton.

And there is small matter of my backing a Calzaghe/Hatton double at my local Billy Hill's a few months back... ::

As Dsimon points out, Hatton is being hideously underestimated by a hell of a lot of folks. Not just here, but everywhere people discuss boxing. I really know not why this is...

MTF

 

It won't work, Kauki. Your curse is strong, but Floyd is even stronger.
He'll defeat both Zoo's daddy AND your curse :cheer:

 

If he can sizzle like Witter, you never know...

 

Or perhaps do something useful instead?

I officially pick Hatton, but based on heart more than logic. I do think Hatton has a decent chance, his style will be very difficult for Floyd to overcome. Hatton will not give him room, he has quick legs to catch Floyd with and inside his style, ugly as if it is, is very effective.

 

It's quite useful, actually, but we can leave the religious commentary out of it. It was used as a figure of speech. Leave the criticism at the door.

I understand your pick...especially the part about picking with heart. But your rationale for Hatton has merit.

I think the problem is really the 2nd half of the fight.

I fully expect it to be competitive - very much so - in the first half. I expect Mayweather to be pushed and uncomfortable and be in a dogfight.

I think the 2nd half of the fight is where it gets interesting; because Mayweather will conserve his stamina and if needed, REALLY begin to use his legs and feet to avoid Hatton's rushes....and I think Ricky will be increasingly too tired to catch up and ensure Mayweather is in a clinch where Ricky can be effective.

Hatton will also be more vulnerable to Mayweather's elbows and shoulders - as well as his inside uppercuts and counters - as the fight goes on.

Question is if Hatton can put enough hurt on PBF early to slow him down in the second half of the fight.

Peace.

 

In a nutshell, this is the reason I can't pick Hatton to beat Mayweather and would give Cotto a good chance at beating him. I think Cotto has the physical strength and power to slow Floyd down enoughto catch up with him later, whereas Hatton doesn't.

I'd like to see Floyd lose more than Hatton win (which is an statement toward how much I dislike Mayweather) but I just don't see Hatton having enough down the stretch to keep Mayweather from potshotting him and taking over down the stretch to win a decisive if not wide UD.

 

I got it, but any chance to mock people's religions is good :clap: ::

As for the fight, it appears we see it very much alike

 

Same here.

To be fair, Hatton's had more time to train, prepare and acclimate to 147 in this fight than vs. Collazo...

But PBF will be at his best also because Hatton's style and size/build afford him opportunities that bigger men (i.e.; DLH) do not.

And I truly think PBF can buzz Hatton at 147, especially with angles. He will be nailing that body, too...and Hatton didn't like it when Tszyu went there.

I think the second half will be the difference and that's where I see Mayweather having a decisive edge.

Peace.

 

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times...

In most cases, good body punchers can't take it in return...Hatton certainly fits that mold.

Truth be told, I wouldn't have any issues with Hatton beating Floyd. On some level, it could be good for the sport and setup a welterweight rivalry.

I simply can't see Mayweather and Arum doing business anytime soon (no Cotto fight) and I'm not certain if Floyd will find the winner of Cintron-Williams "worthy" of fighting him.

 

Yeah...and even at 140, Urango bothered him too. Mayweather is underrated as a body puncher....especially against fighters whose size and style make it easy/low-risk for Mayweather to access the body and load up on his shots there.

I'd so love to see the Mayweather-Hatton-Cotto-Williams-Margarito-Cintron round-robins happen....hate the politics!!! :doh:

 

fools will be suprised by how strong Floyd will be relative to Hatton at 147.......Hatton will not be the strong bully he's made out to be

 

dsimon writes:

He is being underestimated because he is so pasty that people cannot see him in his entirety! ::

 

We see plenty of him when he's at 190 between fights. :nono:

 

dsimon writes:

Donny and metamuze make some very good points!:bears: There is a legitimate question of stamina... one that does not exist with Cotto. I guess the way I figure is that Ricky went the distance without the dryhump once before with Zoo he has one more left in him and it might as well be this one.... he and every other bloke on the planet knows that if this fight is big it will be his seminal fight. Even in the Zoo fight he did slow down a bit though.

Shit:: I have become what I hate.... a "styles make fights guy" I am thinking here Cotto would destroy Ricky, but lose to Floyd and Ricky can beat Floyd.... somebody shoot me please! :doh:

 

True, but two points:

Hatton has consistently gotten worse in this regard. It's not that he's been inconsistent....he is now, in all of his recent fights, holding and clinching and slowing down over the last half more than he has historically.

I think it's the result of his blowing up between fights and his overall style which isn't made for longevity.

Second...he'll be carrying 7 lbs. more (at minimum); and PBF is going to make Hatton move, move, move to get to him....that's a different proposition than forcing a fighter who is right in front of you into the trenches.

Peace.

 

dsimon writes:

:: :: dere is my mate Ricky, hes a big boy right now yes?

Donny I have to be totally honest with you, and I was going to send this via PM to you and metaMuze.... You guys raise some good issues related to this fight, especially the points both of you make about the body punching. These points are spot on... and no Fatton does not like it to the body and that WOULD slow him down (Muze).... in a hurry. Zoo didn't go to the body either BTW, that I remember at least.

What people don't understand is that Floyd can punch to the body and he is strong at that weight compared to Hatton!! You guys are pushing me so a spike on the fence is up my ass and I can't get over either side on this fight! :doh:

 

dsimon writes:

correct about longevity, but watch your graph bro, Hatton is a fight up to the comp kind of guy. He looked great against Maussa when maussa was a tough fight for example. I didn;t see his last fight so no comment against Castillo. I don't think he has lost a step just yet and my intuition tells me that he nows he ain't beatin floyd with the dry hump.

Floyd will make Hatton move and if Hatton starts moving into the space where Mayweather counters without punching, the fight will quickly turn over to Floyd.

 

Oh yes he did....why do you think Hatton nailed him with a huge low blow?

Tszyu's shot was a legit one to the body and Ricky didn't like it one bit. Tszyu went there only occasionally to that point - that was one of his big misses; he should have focused on Ricky's body much more.

Hatton still fought a brilliant fight.

Urango hit Ricky hard there too....and Hatton was very hurt.

And we don't mean to sit you on a spike. :nono: ::