(That bout, incidentally, has sold more than 400,000 pay-per-view units, according to Arum. But he says he's adopting a new policy of not releasing the final figures because fighters will want to be paid on that number and Top Rank doesn't have the revenue yet. More likely, though, for his decision to keep the numbers to himself is that the fight failed to reach the 500,000-plus sales Arum projected.) Yahoo Sports!
Ha, "Yesterday I'm lying, today I'm telling the truth" rears its ugly head. Arum said the same exact thing after Pacquiao-Barrera II :laughing: That said, 400,000 is nothing to hang your head over. I thought the fight would take a greater hit due to those saving up for Floyd-Hatton, as well as HBO's willingness to greater invest in the latter. 400,000+ is hella impressive. I honestly thought it was gonna be a bit of a PPV letdown (compared to the pre-fight hype/buzz), topping out at around 350,000. 400,000+ means everyone profits and then some. Contrary to the article's claim, I'm sure that's the part that Arum's upset about more than anything else :: ... if I'm not mistaken, Cotto was entitled to a portion of the PPV upside, as a result of taking "short" money (Shane either got a 53/47 or 57/43 split in his favor, of the guaranteed purse)
It was promoted well in Los Angeles. There were even billboards in downtown LA and i didnt even see those for DLH/Mayweather
That actually no bad considering Tito vs Vargas did 560,000 buys pretty close for his first big name fighter. Now if he'll be able to top 1.4 million for De La Hoya against Felix Trinidad in 1999 that is another question. But regardless he'll be paid in full.
The sport of boxing is still badly promoted in my opinion. Outside of the U.S, there is no real promotion or coverage of the sport. There was no hype for this fight over here, no sports articles, nothing. They're all too stuck up the asses of Baseball and Hockey to give a damn about boxing.:dunno:
I agree that it can still be better promoted, and that boxing needs to stop pointing to nice-sized crowds and saying "see, we're not dead yet." In other words, stop settling for what's considered a success by today's standards. That said, I'm sure Calzaghe-Kessler was as big as they come as far as major European fights, and it was certainly huge in the history of the super middleweight division. But most whispers from HBO suggest that the ratings didn't come anywhere close to justifying the investment.
Perhaps if you weren't concentrating your attention on the Giants and the Bricks, more people in the main stream would have noticed? The future of the sport is on your back Mr. Donovan.
I can't stand Ellerbe. I know Floyd praises him for being a good manager. But he also has to play the role of "yes man" as part of Floyd's entourage. He likes talking shit about fighters as if he was a fighter himself. something about that dude I just can't stand.:warning:
Thats what Ellerbe is. Has there been a recent spotting of Floyd with Ellerbe no where to be seen. They go everywhere together.
I can agree on Leonard being a yes-man, but boxing is filled with those. Where he differs from most, though, is that your typical entourage hanger-on tends to take on the personality of the fighter he follows around. Ellerbe is nothing like that, in fact if anything, the complete opposite of Floyd in that regard. Ellerbe's always done right by Floyd, and is probably one of the easist (read: most pleasant) people to do business with in the sport. I don't know, it's just weird to hear anyone use "can't stand" to describe him, in fact you're probably the first. I don't even think I've ever heard Bob Arum say anything bad about him.
I like him too. im just saying everywhere Floyd goes Ellerbe is right there. I saw an interview with Floyd at DWTS and Ellerbe was in the background.
If that were the case, then shouldn't they at least be advertising it? I checked my cable listing and HBO.com and neither mention the Cotto-Mosley fight being shown. In fact it appears Abner Mares vs. Damian David Marchiano will be the undercard fight. Here's the HBO link to the fight announcement: http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2007/1117_guzman_soto/news/announcement.html
On another note, why the hell would HBO approve a fighter who was KO'd in 1 round two fights ago? :dunno:
Thanks. I still find it funny that HBO isn't marketing this fight harder. They sent me an email for tonights fight and it was basically that link that I already posted which has no mention of the Cotto-Mosley bout being replayed tonight. Has anyone seen HBO show a commercial of them showing the replay tonight, or was it only of Soto-Guzman?
The thing I don't like about the guy is that I'm sure he is a good business man and knows his stuff. But somehow tha'ts not enough for him. He talks shit about fighters when he doesn't have to. He is not a promoter nor is he a fighter. He is supposed to be a respected businessman. Next thing you know he'll be saying rhymes like Floyd Sr. :laughing:
Why would they need to promote it? Unless you just got HBO this week, you along with every other boxing fan who has HBO should know that they always replay the HBO PPV fight the very next week. I mean why waste time on commercials? :: That being said, every soto/Guzman commercial i saw said they were replaying the cotto v. mosley fight ::
I guess. Maybe I just don't pay close enough attention. Ellerbe will say stuff, but certainly no more excessive than the next guy. There aren't too many managers/advisors (with fighters at or close to the top level, that is) I truly despise. DeCubas is on the very short list. Beyond that, not too many I can think of off the top of my head. Very few seem to distinguish themselves from the rest of the pack, at least enough to draw hate.
