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You referred to fightbeat as a tabloid site. That my friend will never be forgotten. Thats why you'll continually be put in your place by me.

 

I second that!

 

I liked all the shows. I liked the Cotto/Mosley breakdown of the fight.

However somebody took a shot at Mosley at the end of the show telling people not to use roids as if Mosley is a clear example of why not to take them.:dunno:

I don't see how anybody can make a comment like that based on his performance. :dunno:

 

I've already given my thoughts on the show. From a listening perspective, you're the weakest link as far as charisma goes. Bundini, Sly and REED are the core of the show.

I say stick with those three and if they want to have a guest, that'll complete the foursome.

 

Steve Dave is a better host than Cupey, he moves things along well, this show was the most "professional" sounding. I am in favour of there being no ever present panel, much as I like the guys who are there.

IMO, the host should be the only reliable constant, the other positions can be changed or mixed up at the discretion of the host, Cupey and the consensus of the listenership on the forum on a regular enough basis, just to mix things up.

I am strongly in favor of Karl having no say in the make-up of the show. The guests are exactly that, the guests.

Props to REED for having the correct (IMO) perspective on the show's remit, place etc.

 

I appreciate the thoughts, bro (and Andrew's too - the poster).

But I have no interest in being on it.

Was just clarifying the suggestion someone else made - my interpretation was that the idea was to occasionally switch out one regular member for a guest, not to add more people.

I'd agree with Karl that having 6, 7, 8 people at one time would be chaotic and suboptimal.

Peace.

 

I don't care what you're interested in. Just be on it. :kick:

 

Andrew Brown is a very talented host but IMO Carlos is as well. I don't think there's much to choose between them. Both do an equally good job...it;s just fashionable to say that Andrew is obviously better than Carlos.

All of the shows so far have been of equal strength. Andrew did a GREAT job last show, no doubt...but Carlos was EQUALLY good the previous week. You gentlemen are underrating Carlos and that's not fair.:nono:

 

Disagree. I wouldn't want the HBO crew mixing things up with "Jim Brown" for example, being the only constant.

Not wrong with having the occasional..Roy Jones or Emmanuel Stewart to mix things up but we should always have Larry Merchant, Jim Lampley and whoever is the host of the show.

Saying that....I'm all for constructive criticism and considering other people's opinions and I'd want whatever is deemed best for the show..even if that were to mean that I should no longer be involved...for example. However the final decision rests with Cupey and I'll be cool with any decision he makes...BUT he SHOULDN'T be bullied by the forum members to "fix" something that inherently isn't broken.

 

Karl, I was merely clarifying or suggesting a potential alternative to what other posters have suggested/requested, since I agree with you that having a bunch of participants on the show would be sub-optimal (4 is already alot).

I have no interest in being on the show, telling you what to do, or infringing on your little piss-marked territory at FightBeat.

At the end of the day, this is Carlos' gig, and you have absolutely SQUAT to do with it; other than your enormously biased interviews and "reports" and your participation on the "show" - which is listened to by all 25 of us on the forum.

You bite the hand that feeds you in myopic fashion, and insult, belittle and marginalize the very folks who contribute to your little slice of success, as insignificant as it is.

Your inflated sense of self-importance and infantile temper tantrums and childish over-sensitivity are really starting to grate on my nerves, and those of everyone else on the forum.

I am one of the posters that most gives you respect and tries to treat you with fairness on this site, and this is the kind of disrespectful, thankless garbage you spew in return.

It's like you have to cling to the Fightbeat gig and obssessively, slobberingly control every single aspect of your fiefdom, lest someone else have some participation which could be construed as a threat to your delicate self-esteem.

Get off it, man. Jesus, you are immature for a 47-year-old. Given your supposedly extensive amateur experience and your age, you would think you'd have learned to welcome constructive criticism (hell, just SUGGESTIONS) by now.

I realize it can be hard to do when something is "your baby" and still people come up with endless ways to make it 'better'...but that's all it is. It will ALWAYS happen.

You're showing yourself to be a little, little man.

You have no idea who I am, what I do -- and it's time you understood that there is a MUCH bigger world out there than your sparring sessions and cheerleader interviews and insufferable squawking about "tying them up" and empty, silly, ridiculous threats.

No "continuity" on the show? What kind of mindless drivel are you prattling on about? What the hell does that mean? What - you, Carlos, Sly and REED are going to do the show until you're 85 years old?

Continuity has nothing to do with it. NONE of you had any continuity when the show started. And if a contributor is good and knows his stuff, he's GOOD. PERIOD.

Keep your show and your fragile, insecure ego, Karl.

But don't you dare to hypocritically demand respect from anyone here when you won't give it.

 

Nothing is going to happen to the show, Sly.
Some subjects are just envious and jealous of people actually being involved and having a say in the sport and are looking to stir some trouble up here, is all.

 

Can you be any more pathetic, Karl?

It's....well, it's laughable. ::

I heard a similar comment the other day....when my 8-year-old was at the playground.

 

And for the record, I reiterate my position that the shows are very good, and lately have gotten even better.

It's a quality effort and it shows.

Peace.

 

I talked to steve_dave and he said you can't be on the show until you get a haircut. Even though it's radio, apparently those locks on the back of your head still come through.

 

I meant no disrespect to Cupey, I just thought Steve Dave did a better job, Cupey has done a great job on keeping this site going - no one would dispute that.

No disrespect Sly, but Lord knows you are no Larry Merchant, Lampley or even Foreman. At the end of the day, I think having the same staples could lead to things becoming a bit stale, I prefer a rotation approach, after all, it is just forum posters on a phone line, Its not like you are bringing any news items to our attention...there are plenty of good posters here who could bring a different voice on alternate bases

This has the potential to get personal, but I actually enjoy your contributions, this isn't really aimed at anyone...

 

btw gentlemen it's nice to get everyone's opinions on the show: positives and negatives. Without positives we would never be encouraged to continue and without negatives we could never improve it.

All comments and feedback are welcome and encouraged and many of you have made some GREAT observations and suggestions.

 

Word

 

Cool. For the record I wasn't offended or upset, sorry if it came accorss that way. Your points are well noted I just have a diferent opinion.

Cool.

 

I'd like to just point out that Karl Hegman has once again destroyed yet another thread about the radio show with his insecurity on any little matter that doesn't suck off this show. I've never had a problem with the show other then I wish we could get some fresh perspective from others. Not replacing the core of the show but sub every once in awhile. I've always stated that I don't listen to the show for it's "boxing knowledge". I don't think anyone on that show has any extensive knowledge on the sport to really be taken seriously enough to change my opinion on certain things. Maybe that comes from posting with the shows guests for a years now. I've seen most of their personal opinions regarding certain fighters and certain fights which to me is nothing but blind nutthugging. What I do enjoy about the show is it's real feel. Everyone gets along and seems like their having fun. Also, it's not you guys don't know at all what your talking about either. It's just hard to take seriously what you say when I've seen the pure cheerleading you do on the forum. It's getting better by the week, but it's far from perfect and could us some fresher perspectives every know and then while still keeping the core the same.

I won't listen to the show anymore though. Karl's sense of self value on this show is garbage and I for one won't support it.

 

Mav my man! If you got nuttin' nice to say dawg then don' be sayin' nuttin', ya feel me? :: J/K

 

Mav, the show is directed at the commoners who probably know squat about the sport. At least I think it is. It's not like I need slystaff or Stinger to educate me on a sport I've watched for 19 years.::
Although I respect their opinions, I'm not listening to the show for their insight. I just like sly's accent. :clap: And Cupey knows f*ck all, why would I ever want his opinion on boxing? :laughing:

 

This isn't even going to be fun to do if everyone is always bitching.

 

Bitching? I haven't heard any bitching about the show so far, you have gotten applauds and some suggestions. That, and also negative feedback, are part of the game whenever you produce something to people. If people don't like what you do, then you are the one who has to change, that's how it works. Now that people do like you, keep up the good work

 

Precisely... and once again, all anyone's offering are opinions. It's not like we're threatening a forum-wide boycott if certain demands aren't met ::

Americans bitch every day that George W. Bush is the President., and at just about everything he does. But guess what? When they go to sleep at night, Dubya is still president. And again when they wake up in the morning.

 

No one is bitching. Anytime you put yourself out there you have too expect praise and criticism. You can't have one without the other. Your the man steve. I use to like the show you did back a few years ago. Your a great addition.

 

Wow.

Looks like my good TWIN finally walked over to the dark side.

Fantastic response not only in content, but in truth.

:bears:

 

No one is bitching Bundini...we like what you're doing. The common denominator in all of this is Karl.

he's the weak link and the ego.

 

Hahahhahaha.

 

Agreed. When Donny talks out like that, there must be a DAMN good reason to it. Donnybrook is a legend

 

Aside from the running of the show, the content was pretty good this week, but I thought the final comments about steroids were pretty mean-spirited and irrelevant