whos picking hatton

Floyd's punches are under-rated, Hatton's Chin is over-rated

floyd's speed, while everyone achknowledges he's fast.. it's stil UNDERRATED

Floyd is FAST!

remember the angel manfredy fight.. people'd ask him before the fight "how are you going to deal with FLoy'd speed" and Angel would say "I'm fast too! I'm not worried about it"

after he got dominated he said 'That guy is FAST"

I think even though fighters know he's fast.. when they get in there, it's discouraging.. he is just too fast

 

hatton has continually said throughout the build up that he's coming in at his normal 140 or there abouts. he doesn't see floyd as a 147er and is not worried about the extra weight.

sensible move.

 

Stevie Johnston, Diego Corralles, and a whole host of others were also 2 fast for Manfredy. Fuck it, for 3 rounds, GATTI was too fast for Manfredy.:doh:

 

"Floyd will beat Hatton because he was too fast for Manfredy" ::

 

dsimon writes:

He is fast, and his delivery is textbook. Straight as an arrow and untelegraphed.

 

The issue of character will be a deciding factor in this fight.

Ricky Hatton is an honest,average, everyday Joe from Manchester
Floyd Mayweather is a fake thug wannabe.

Easy win for Floyd.

 

Yep..that's the botom line. I would say that Zab judah has faster hands for example...but he can't match Floyd's accuracy due to your points.

 

Amen Bro, and Hatton is a pastely white drunk with energy but wild and sloppy.. his liquid courage aint gonna help him againest the Sharp Shooter

 

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WAR LOK!! :bears:

 

Well, that's PBF's best win....in terms of a "name" and the fact that it happened at 154 lbs.

But to your point, DLH is a part-time fighter with some decline.

It depends on how close you think Mayweather-De La Hoya was. I didn't think it was close at all. I had it 9-3 for PBF and the best I can see is 8-4.

And we can talk about where DLH "started", but the fact is DLH has been a junior middleweight for 6 years - and beat Vargas, Castillejo, Campas, and Mayorga there. All natural 154 lbers. with the exception of Mayorga - who is a natural welterweight anyway.

Mayweather has faced more active, dangerous fighters (Castillo, Corrales) much closer to their prime and beaten them, close or wide....and has beaten a string of solid pressure fighters at their best weights.

If your point is that there is no major size disadvantage because PBF is not a 'big' or 'natural' welterweight....point taken.

But the real point is that Hatton is at his most dominant at 140. It's simply logical - he's not a big fighter; so he is most able to leverage his strength, pressuring/mauling style, speed and power at a weight where his opponents are equal size or smaller.

PBF has had almost 3 years to acclimate to 147+; and has shown he can fight there and with bigger men.

Sure, he hasn't yet taken on one of the "big" welterweights....but Hatton isn't one of those.

That doesn't mean he isn't a great fighter, and quite possibly the best pressure fighter/mauler PBF will have faced in his career.

Peace.

 

For all Floyds "acclimatising" at 147, the only true Welter he fought there was Bumdomir, and that is saying very very little.

And Yory Boy Campas fought and failed in 2 World Title attempts at 147, never mind 154.

Oscars comp at 154 is very very patchy...and his form of recent bears no resemblance to what it used to be back in the day. How long Oscar has spent at 154 is, for the most part, irrelevant. You are only as good as your last weld. If you don't train for a fight then your time at the division is really not relevant. Jim Jeffries was a very good legitimate heavyweight for years, but that counted for nothing when he faced Johnson. This is a full time bidness, take a month off and it shows.

 

dsimon writes:

Which makes one realize that if Zab worked at his craft the way Floyd does.... Instead of getting into fistfights at crap games.

The irony is disturbing. Floyd acts like he goes arround all day and throws money at cameras when anyone can see that he has to be driven and disciplined to do the things he does in the ring. Floyd doesn't have the natural abilty that a guy like Jones or Judah does.. he doesn't have the nature but he has the nurture, speaking philosophically.

 

dsimon writes:

It would if they had a go at the pub. Ricky would break pretty boy's nose with a headbutt and then give him tetnis from biting Pretty Boy with his bad and infected teeth. ::

 

OC....this wasn't meant to be a dicussion of the resumes of every opponent PBF has had at each and every weight.

That wasn't the original point and you've gone on a tangent.

If you're trying to say that Hatton and Mayweather are basically on even ground at 147 in terms of size and comfort with the weight....sorry, but I'd strongly disagree, for the many reasons listed.

Doesn't mean that that point ALONE guarantees a Mayweather win.

Peace.

 

Floyd is bigger, better, faster, and I think stronger.

Hatton has no chance here.

 

:bears: In the pub, I MIGHT give it to Hatton, first off, he'd be 220 lbs at least, and he'd have a pint in his hand, he'd crack it on Floyd's head

 

Conceeding 5 rounds plus a knockdown to Zab, A stinking, running, backtwisting split decision over the very worst version of De La Hoya post Felix Sturm, and a true eye watering( it's 'bawling' if ur Fraud) "runna" verses Forrest's bitch,... Fraud sure fucken SUX for "an invincible, unbeatable, awesome p4p1#$$#$#$#$#$# fighter who apparently no one has a chance against!!" "No one's in his league!!" it's remarked so often,..., :: really? except for perhaps Zab I guess?... ...this has certainly become a very, hushy, nap & tuck & hide type of desperate arbitrary scheme to maintain, when really, it should've all unravelled cleanly back when Zab clocked Fraud's glove to the floor,....I mean, ...:dunno: ...what the fuck has Fraud done lately that Cotto hasn't for example?...who's got the better win? UD Oscar's two times father or a Split decision over Shane's two time bitch?..:crafty: ,..uh ohhhhhhhhh,..
....
......and Manny Pacquioa is by far and away the world's best and most dominant fighter p4p,.. just because Roy Jones had a good extensive reign and genuine claim to this moniker, doesn't granture his groupies the power to annoint the "reserve" when he falls,.. ..what's the bet if Fraud didn't exist, Bernard Hopkins would currently be ontop of this list...ofcourse there would be a bit of spin and hushing to be done in regards to Jermaine Taylor, but thankfully it's not an issue because Fraud's still got his 0 at Castillo's expense :crafty: .

 

He is Collazo but 10000x better. Hugman has no chance if the ref does his job.

 

Kauki, didn't you use the same logic before Cotto-Mosley, and it shitted all over you and ON you?
Didn't you also you use the same logic before Margarito-Williams, and it shitted all over you and ON you?
Didn't you also you use the same logic before Cotto-Abdula, and it shitted all over you and ON you?
Didn't you also you use the same logic before PBF-ODLH, and it shitted all over you and ON you?
Didn't you also you use the same logic before Calgazhe-Kessler and it shitted all over you and ON you?
Do you think there might some flaw in your logic?

 

Well I actually don't keep a log of other people's predictions unfortunately Dympeople, :dunno: but, I do appreciate your flawless prediction record this year, it's an inspiration to us all, however, I did have one highlight, a prediction that infact directly relates to Fraud's status as fighter of the year back in 2006 if you're interested?,...

Vernon Forrest 120 - 108 x 3, Carlos Baldomir,

....that was a rippah,...it annointed me king for the day, no one else said it with such conviction for months the way I did, and I liked my chances for that particular pick, because I know what Fraud is all about when it comes to opponents you see,..let's examine some of them,..

Sharmba Mitchell - Already smashed unprecedently by the brilliant Tszyu a year earlier, and crushed by Paul Williams in 4 mere rounds.

Carlos Baldomir - OWNED, in a REAL, genuine, unhyperbolized shut-out by Vernon Forrest, 12 fucking zip, and didnt see him running and literally crying for the last 6 rounds I don't believe?..

Zab - Coming off a beating by the above scrub, STOPPED by Cotto,.. and here's my personal favourite in brackets (Fraud by comparison has an arguable DRAW with Zab if you include the knockdown :laughing: ...oh...my....GOD...no wonder why it's taboo to talk about that particular fight, alongside the constant boasts that "nobodies in Fraud's league".

Castillo - Beat the fuck out of Fraud, and metamorphisized him with horror and shock, into the transition of a cautious, cherry-picking bitch forever more, ....Hatton comes along and stops Castillo in 4 mere rounds.

Oscar - Fraud sure showed Sturm, Hopkins and Mosely how it's done, take that! by none other than the great virtuoso leaguesta' ofcourse..

and........:doh: what's worse, is that blatantly, Fraud has to exploit the rules in order to squeak by all these guys^,..:eeeek:...:doh: he cant even win convincingly while cheating?? ...wtf? ....could the 'last of the mohicans' be overrated Dympeople?......:doh: I hope not.

 

So you think Floyd needs help from the ref to overcome Hatton?

 

No i think the opposite. Hatton needs to e allowed to hold and foul to win the this fight.

 

I been saying Hatton is the one to beat Mayweather for years so i am sticking by my guns at the moment however i'm likely to change my mind several times between now and fight time

I think Hatton's speed is going to play a big part in this fight....he's a lot quicker than what people give him credit for

 

Hes a fast clincher. I will give him credit. No way you can clinch over 30 times a round without being fast at clinching.

 

This is not an easy fight for Floyd. It's his worst style match up since Castillo(who I thought he beat twice) but Hatton is more energetic. Betting I would bick Hatton for being such a live underdog, but I am not sure I am ready to say that Floyd will lose to him. I have said Floyd was p4p #1 ever since Jones lost and I don't think that he has lost that rating yet, so it's hard to pick against him, but if you are going to pick against him Hatton is the only fighter out there to pick to beat him.

 

this is a perfect fight for Floyd.. Hatton's style will play right into FLoyd's hands

 

Fascinating clash of styles, but PBF should be able to solve it, & after some dodgy moments early, will win semi-comfortably in the end.

 

Come on, bro. I believe Mayweather wins this; but you have to acknowledge Hatton's hand and footspeed - in that regard he is not your average pressure fighter.

Peace.

 

Deep-down, everyone is picking Hatton.
They're just not admitting it yet.