Pacquiao will choose between Marquez and David Diaz!

I read ARum's last interview on fightnews and he was asked about Manny possibly fighting Guzman:

How did Joan Guzman’s win over Humberto Soto affect his chances of getting a fight against Manny Pacquiao next March?

It won’t affect it at all because he really cannot draw very well if he gets to fight Manny. Manny will choose between two opponents. One, Juan Manuel Marquez or two for the lightweight championship of the WBC against David Diaz. I’ll be discussing all of these with Manny on Thursday in Las Vegas. He’s coming over to Las Vegas on Thursday and I will be meeting with them.

http://www.fightnews.com/principe69.htm


I Hope Manny fights JMM

 

Betcha it's Diaz.

 

I think so too. Diaz is cheaper. opcorn:

Arum said he won't fight Juan Diaz yet because pacquiao's fight is for March. Juan Diaz's contract with King ends also in March. I guess Arum don't wanna deal with King for that fight. :laughing:

I also think it will be David Diaz because Arum said the day Pacquiao rematches Marquez he has face him as a champion.::

 

I'm not surprised they don't want to fight Guzman. It's true he isn't popular and I think, despite that fact that I don't like his style at all, that he would be a stylistic nightmare for Pac, in fact I think he'd win a wide decision in which Pac would look like a fool too many times for his likings. If he doesn't fight JMM I'll be highly disapointed, I happen to think they have unfinished business, scoring error or not.

 

the one thing I don't like about Diaz-Pac is that when it was first discussed, they were talking about putting the bout in L.A. Great for Left-Coasters, but damn - the one remaining bout that could happen in Chicago and they want to take it somewhere else.

For some reason, I have a feeling Arum is going to talk Oscar into making Marquez-Guzman out of all of this. Great fight for purists - but also for Arum to drive home a point (that neither fighter can fill up anything bigger than a ballroom)

 

This all really sucks, because Pac-JMM II is the fight that REALLY should be made.

But a large part of this MUST be laid at Marquez/Beristain's door...they had a chance to make the rematch when the iron was hot and they threw it away.

Terrible decision to this day.

Peace.

 

I agree JMM and Nacho fucked up.

I just don't like when Arum or other people still use it as an excuse. When in reality Arum has other reasons not to give JMM the fight.

It's funny how Pacquiao was the guy who fought the best now he just looks for the biggest purse.

The biggest purse is not always the best fight to make. In Arum's case is the cheapest oponnet - David Diaz.:doh:

 

yeah but it's hard to inmagine Arum not fighting Pacquiao in Vegas

I wouldn't mind seeing JMM/Guzman though. of course not my first option.opcorn:

 

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Pacquiao-David Diaz makes plenty of sense. JMM always thinks his belts are some kind of leverage so Pac should go get some belts to. That's something that has bugged me the last couple of years. Instead of some of the guys Pacquiao has fought, he could have at least picked up some titles (instead of facing guys like Solis and Velasquez). The MAB and Morales fights all made sense though, good paydays.

 

your the first poster to say Pacquiao/Diaz makes sense.::

you must be in Arum's pocket.

against JMM, the belts are meaningless but it's ok to win a tittle against Diaz.:laughing:

Yet Manny has been defending that shitty version of the WBC that is usually won by prospects.:dunno:

Face it it's not about the belts it's just Arum trying to give Manny the biggest purse by giving him the cheapest oponnent - David Diaz. Regardless if it's the last fight people wanna see.

 

I think Pac will end up fighting JMM instead. He's proud, and that will lead him to try to avenge his draw. David Diaz is not much of a motivation for him.

 

Money is the motivation for Pacquiao these days. opcorn:

every interview I read or hear from Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach it's the same answer: "whoever brings the biggest purse" opcorn:

 

Belts are meaningless if you can;t draw anyways. You try to play hardball with the draw and he can just go somewhere else. if the draw has a belt to though, you have nothing to play hardball with. Pacquiao should have already picked up a belt but Diaz will do.

 

whatever happened to Pacquiao fighting the best? or do you agree that is no longer the case?opcorn:

Everytime a good boxer like JMM and Guzman come around if they can't draw Arum won't give them the fight.

I'ts nothing new with Arum. He pulled that shit when he had DLH. :doh:

 

see, this is where I'm at with Arum/Pac. If everyone were just as forgiving with Floyd (who still wound up fighting a Top 5 welter AND the linear welter champ during the height of everyone's pissiness), then there would be no P4P debate whatsoever.

Floyd (the linear welterweight champ) doesn't want to fight Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito - he's avoiding the toughest challenges.

Pacquiao ("just" a 130 lb. contender) doesn't want to fight Marquez (who right now IS the top 130 lb. fighter) or Guzman - Pac doesn't need them anyway.

Double-standard, anyone?

 

i can honestly do without pac-jmm or any jmm fights for that matter.

i'd rather see pac vs david diaz.

 

I could've done without Pac-Larios, Pac-Velazque, Pac-Solis and Pac-MAB II. But we still got 'em :dunno:

 

exactly. i'm tired of both pac and jmm. fuck'em.

 

I don't get your comparison.

Williams just won his first big fight against Margarito. Margarito has been in the picture because Arum remembered he was on his stable and decided to promote the guy for once.::

Marquez has had a better carreer at 126 and now at 130. The demand for his fight against Pacquiao is different. You said it JMM and Pacquiao being the best two at 130.

Neither Margarito nor Williams have been considered the top welterweights for Floyd to be ducking them. :nono:

 

Damn, that post went completely over your head - I was AGREEING with you, fool ::

What I was saying was that everyone's beef last year, and even now, is that Floyd is only looking for money fights and avoiding the toughest challenges. Some actually use this as their basis for NOT ranking him #1 in their P4P lists.

Who's #1? Pacquiao. What's their response when suggested that he's not seeking the best at 130/135 but instead the most lucrative? He's well-earned it.

I'm saying it has to go both ways. People can't criticize Floyd while forgiving Pacquiao, just because he's the more exciting fighter (though his last few fights NOT featuring Morales left a bit to be desired in that department). And until they come correct, I'm going to call them out on it.

 

I am growing so indifferent on Pac/JMM II. At this point I am throwing my hands up at both of them. Its rediculous. Fuck me running. If Pac wants JMM then fight him. If he wants David Diaz then go up, fight Diaz and stay there for a big unification match against Juan Diaz. JMM can fight Guzman. Boxing moves on, fuck all the bullshit.:flip:

 

Lets face it Guzman is a legit Margarito. Unlike Margorito he deserves to fight Pac because hes won his biggest fights.

 

Now I feel like an idiot.

I will go cry now :doh:

 

Yeah....but JMM is no longer using that angle apparently, but calling for the fight very aggressively.

So the "belt thing" is not an issue, seemingly.

And I'm sure they'd be willing to negotiate now...I'm pretty sure JMM doesn't want to move to 135 and would want to get to Pacquiao before Manny leaves SFW.

Peace.

 

Absolutely agreed. :clap:

 

pac's team thinks diaz is an easier fight, and should buy them a little bit more time for jmm to get a bit older and perhaps slower. if it happens prolly they'd line up Marquez, but there's a big risk to it cause Diaz certainly can't be overlooked. the only thing i like about Diaz is he'll probably be the first true lightweight to face PAC(all of pac's opponents after MAB mostly were at best featherweights, not even true SFs, with the exception of Velazquez).
i guess team pac should know fans see no excuses why the jmm-pac2 shouldn't happen.

 

who has david diaz ever beaten? santa cruz is an ok guy, and as I recall he was winning handily until the last round. diaz has been around forever, who has he beaten? erik morales? a guy pac destroyed twice goes up in weight and diaz is life and death with him?
where is the progression?

 

I didn't even think he beat Morales.

 

David Diaz is the easiest route right now.