Feb. 23rd 2008, MSG: Klitschko vs. Ibragimov

I find it funny how most rip the sanctioning bodies yet they salivate for unifications especially in the heaavyweight division. :laughing:

It's not like we'll have one champion with 3 belts. Eventually somebody gets stripped for not making a mandatory and going for a bigger fight.

I think Wlad will KO Sultan but it won't be that quick. Hopefully it will last a while.:dunno:

 

Ifagimov can be aggressive early on. Look how he bombs out the dangerous flabby gentleman from Mexico.

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In theory yes. In reality Ibragimov was afraid to be hit by Holyfield. I think it´s more likely he tops Jameel McCline on the "I shit my pants against Wlad"-hitlist.

Sub in Chagaev and we are talking.

 

.....the same story

 

Yes, in round seven Wlad would have hired the Italian Hitman Joe Mesi to take him out. :clap: :clap:

 

word.

 

:doh: I am one of the biggest culprits of this:: I loathe the abc bodies, yet my cock gets hard for unification bouts. And sure enough one of them(most likely the IBF) will enforce a mandatory 30 days after the fight and surely stip the unified champion. Damn you to hell, sanctioning bodies! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!:flip:

 

There are four belts.

I don't rip the sanctioning bodies, except for particulars, and jarhead is the only other person who mentioned unification in this thread (i think).

But, I don't think it is inconsistent to hate sanctioning bodies, but still like unifications (like jarhead), nor to like sanctioning bodies, but still like unifications (like mE).

Unifications provide clarity which tends to be good for everyone.

 

I'm going to be bold and pick Wlad in this one.

 

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:: Against a guy like that? Sure....and it only happened AFTER the guy forced Sultan to the ropes and made him have to punch back.

 

Ibragimov pretty much fought a safe fight boxing Holyfield and avoiding any exchanges. I don't see him beating Wlad with that style, and even if he did choose to be aggressive I see Wlad catching him coming in. Wlad probably doesn't even need to use his excessive clinching to tactically beat Ibragimov. I don't think Ibragimov will beat Wlad, but I'm rooting for him anyways.

 

examples of wlad's excessive holding?

 

News of this fight actually made the ESPN sports ticker this morning.

 

unfortunately they failed to report my "Heavy-Cott". that type of national coverage could help it gain momentum

 

ha, true enough. I thought it was funny that with whatever's going on in the sport, the one piece of news ESPN found relevant TODAY was news of a fight that was announced two days ago.

 

does anyone reallly care about this fight?

 

boxing fans do, cock fans don't

 

that's better

 

I;m glad the top heavyweights are finally getting together to fight one another. But I have to be honest, there's just nothing interesting (IMO) about Sultan Ibragimov. I'd rather see Wlad-Chagaev, but of course that would require Chagaev getting in the ring. And if he wasn't keen on fighting Ibragimov, then I'm not holding my breath on that fight happening anytime soon.

I guess I'll be more excited when the winners of Wlad-Sultan and Peter-Maskaev are facing one another

 

I don't really want to see Peter vs Wlad again. That fight was pretty boring for the most part. Wlad fought real cautiously in that fight and still got dropped 3 times. I'd pick Wlad to repeat that but in an even less exciting fight.

 

I would hope Peter would put caution to the wind and go for broke in a rematch, but with Peter who the fuck knows. I just want Wlad to fight two champions in '08 so a matchup with the winner of Povetkin/Chambers can kind of mean something.opcorn:

 

I disagree, I think Wlad will open up more in the rematch. That was his first major fight with Steward (as in, non tune-up), and the first time he was forced to implement clinching, and as often as he did. Plus, he knew at the end of the fight that he can hurt Peter as well, a lesson further emphasized in the McCline fight.

All that said, it's no foregone conclusion that Peter's beating Maskaev. He's the "safe" pick, but I mean he's not exactly the second coming of Ali or anything. And Maskaev isn't the complete roadkill everyone's making him out to be.

 

The Samuel Peter fight.

 

mmm no.

 

two words

Euro

Bums

 

say what you want about the quality of hw boxing, fact is, this fight will crown the best boxer on the planet ( with an honorable mention to Chagaev ), pretty good reason for boxing fans to care for imo

 

No it wouldn't. Wlad's already the best heavyweight, beating Sultan won't do much to enhance that. And incase you haven't notice - Sultan just isn't very good. He's a Top 10 contender, but honestly no better.

 

Then give us a better opponent to enhance his claim? Don't say Peter because he already beat his ass.

 

Chagaev. But it's not about ONE fight cleaning up the heavyweight division. All of the top heavyweights need to start fighting each other.

Like I said earlier in the thread, these two fights (Wlad-Sultan and Peter-Maskaev) are positive steps in the right direction. The last man standing will be THE heavyweight champion.

I'm just not particularly excited about the fight itself, that's all.

I'd be more sold on Sultan had he beaten a decent fighter at least close to his prime. I don't see a fighter that's any better than what was offered in the Ray Austin fight, just that he found two opponents determined to set records for least punches thrown per round/fight. Not to mention that both fights were colossal bores.

Both Peter and Maskaev at least have a puncher's chance against Wlad. Sultan fights these days like a curveball pitcher. Maybe he can outbox him for a minute, but it's possible that his chin is even worse than Wlad's. Which leaves him with very few advantages (if any) going into this fight.