Lacy vs. Manfredo Jr.

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  1. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Guess the line????

    +600 for Manfredo Jr.?
     
  2. Tam Tam

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    Seems about right to me. Manfredo win fight this not.
     
  3. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    Right. Manfredo is a name that is there to get KTFO. Hes orthodox and hittable. Just what GBP wanted to get Lacy his confidence back.
     
  4. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    yeah Lacy's a pretty big favourite, but Manfredo has a chance....if Lacy can't get him out of there early then it could be like the Sheika fight all over again
     
  5. Double L

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    let's not forget: presumably, Lacy will be without the benefit of a crooked Welsh referee. so any expectation for an early stoppage has to be tempered.

    also, Lacy isn't a boxer the way Slappy is. Manfredo will have much more success controlling Lacy if he's able to use his aggression against him and find countering opportunities.
     
  6. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    I got Manfredo +400 and think he is pretty live.
     
  7. Double L

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    yeah. it's not like Manfredo can't take a punch. and as much problems as he had getting going against Calzaghe, he's at least twice as good a boxer as Lacy is.
     
  8. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Kind of what I was thinking, though I believe Manfredo will manage to do better than just appear to be competitive. It's been a while since Lacy's looked good in a fight. Hell, its been a year since he was in ANY fight at all, and has never been the type to look sharp coming off of any type of layoff. Not to mention we have no clue how well he's recovered from surgery, or if his rotator's cuff even completely healed.
     
  9. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I can't believe they would be so dumb to let him fight if it wasn't completely healed.

    As for the lines i think that fight should be a -350 +300 kind of affair...
     
  10. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    some injuries never fully heal, and it then becomes a question of whether you want to deal with it, or simply retire young. Case in point, Vernon Forrest - who flat out admits that he will never again be 100% healthy, but doesn't feel like he's at the point where he should no longer be fighting.
     
  11. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    where did u play Manfredo for +400, VAL?
     
  12. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Nowhere, I was just answering the thread. When I said I had him, I meant that is what I would make it.
     
  13. Tam Tam

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    I'd give +400 to anyone who wanted to take Manfredo.
     
  14. Donnybrook

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    Manfredo is definitely a live opponent here.
     
  15. LATIN KING

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    I think this fight is a toss up. Hard to pick this one because I'm not sure what to expect from either guy. Both were very dissapointing the last time I saw them.

    Some think Lacy is shot after the Calzague beating and the poor showing against Typsko. I disagree, the guy had an injury during the Typsko fight and still won. I'll wait to see him again.

    I never though much of Manfredo but I heard he had improved alot. he completely froze against Calzague and made that a waste of a fight. :doh:
     
  16. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Virchis and Calzaghe were both

    1. Tall

    2. Southies

    3. Could box.

    Manfredo has none of these attributes

    I like him, but he's small and not particularly skilled, especially in defense. Unless Lacy has CUMpletely gone to seed, then this is Jeffs.
     
  17. Mitchell Kane

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    Tsypko.
     
  18. Donnybrook

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    You mean Tsypko?

    The reason I think Manfredo is live is because he can earmuff his way inside and once there he actually moves his hands and can fight inside very well. That gives Lacy problems.

    I think Lacy should win, make no mistake - I just don't think he'll look as dominant doing it as he "should".

    Peace.
     
  19. Orthodox Crusader

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    Yeah, Tsypko. His first name is Vitali, right? Cos there's a Vitali Virchis out there somewhere.
     
  20. Orthodox Crusader

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    Yeah but since Calzaghe, Jeff isn't going to look anywhere near as "Dominant" as he "should"....the same way Tyson wasn't, post Douglas. People know think they can beat Jeff, and that makes Jeff just another fighter, with all the problems that entails.
     
  21. Ugotabe Kidding

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    Vladimir Virchis actually if you are talking about the heavyweight contenere :lol:
     
  22. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    Manfredo is coming off surgery too.
     
  23. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    yeah but it's also going to be his 4th fight this year, and 5th in 14 months. Not that surgery is something simple to overcome - but it's the only detriment for Manfredo (aside from his not being very good). He's had two confidence builders since the Calzaghe abortion of a fight.

    Lacy hasn't looked good in over two years - and that was in a performance that Manfredo matched, if not surpassed, just four months later.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Sorry but somebody who loses to Gomez a fat 147lber isn't beating Lacy.
     
  26. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Lacy has never been a dominant fighter. Let's be realistic here. the guy lost several rounds to Vanderpool,Wiggens and Sheika. Lacy is/was a good fighter but he's NEVER been a dominating guy.
     
  27. Orthodox Crusader

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    Prime for Prime...Jeff Lacy would have dominated Fernando Vargas.
     
  28. His_Royness

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    right RIIIGHT... :notallthere:
     
  29. Orthodox Crusader

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    Hey I don't follow the comeback fights of Joe Calzaghe victims, unless its a Joe-Calzaghe-Victim-Unification-Bout.
     
  30. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx WBC Champion

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    If Lacy loses to Manfredo he should just quit.
     

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