Reptitious Thread: fights that "should" be made....

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  1. Double L

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    I always get excited discussing potential matchups, even those that we all know will never get made. Some of the ones out there right now are amazing. If 10% of them get made, we will be happy campers. Well, maybe not campers. I don't camp. The rest of you are welcome to do so however. Anyhow, here's some matchups I wish would get made sooner than later:

    1. Tarver/Dawson - to see Tarver get his azz beat yet again in slightly different fashion than Hopkins did. Also, Dawson is in need of another signature win - most people fail to realize just how good Adamek was and what that win means as far as his potential.

    2. Pavlik/Calzaghe - I know Sloppy would come in as a huge favorite and few would give Pavlik a chance, but for better or worse, Pavlik's style is light years different than Kessler's, and in my mind, would be much more effective against the slapping hands-down doggy-paddle flurry throwing wishing he was slick Calzaghe.

    3. Vazquez/De Leon - after Vazquez dispatches Marquez once again. Although, if Marquez manages to win, I'd like to see him decapitate De Leon.

    4. Williams/PBF - PBF would be at a loss. He'd have to fight the way SRL fought Hearns, only without the power and without the guts. He'd lose.

    5. Margarito/Cotto - beautiful fight. Cotto would lose - only question is whether or not he'd last the distance. My guess is he would not.
     
  2. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The only reason I want to see Dawson/Tarver next is to justify the fact that Showtime for some reason decided to get in the Antonio Tarver business. Beyond that, I don't get the push for Chad to set his sights on Tarver. All it does is feed Antonio's ego and create the pereception that he (Tarver) is still a relevant LHW.
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pac-Marquez II is high on my list. It's one of the two fights I feel MUST happen in 2008 (Floyd-Cotto - or Hatton-Cotto should the upset occur - being the other).
     
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    Pac-Valero is the fight i want to see most of all. Juan Diaz against Katsidis was a fight i wanted to happen so i got that wish.
     
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    Win or lose, I still think Hatton-Cotto should happen.
     
  6. slystaff

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    Calzaghe-Hopkins
    Pacquaio - Guzman
    Pacquaio - JUAN Diaz
    Mayweather - Cotto (if Floyd wins)
    Klitschko - ANY ABC title holder
    Jones-Hopkins 2 (if Roy beats Trinidad)
     
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    Mayweather-Cotto is the fight that should be made. Williams has a style that would give Floyd problems thats for sure. Marogorito gets his ass kicked by Cotto. Too bad Margarito already wasted his chance to fight Cotto.
     
  8. Jake

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    How did Margarito waste it? They're talking about Cotto/Margarito for next year. If anything, he prolonged it a year, but hardly wasted it.
     
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    #1. He could have fought Cotto instead of Williams.
    #2. If he beat Williams he would have fought Cotto in Cottos last fight.
    #3. Cotto recently said he doesn't want to fight him. Saying that he had his chance and blew it.
     
  10. Jake

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    #1. He wound up making more for the Williams fight, which is why he took it.
    #2. He lost, but still got an easy payday in a co-feature slot and is still on track to fight him, because...
    #3. It doesn't matter what Cotto says, it's what his bank tells him (which is why Cotto's most common response is "I fight who they put in front of me"). And if Bank of Arumerica tells him Margarito is his next big payday... then he's fighting Margarito.
     
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    Thats great. But when the Bank of DelaHoyaca calls and says he wants Cotto he will get him.
     
  12. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    true... but only if Bank of Arumerica can find their old scales that will allow Oscar to make 147 :lol:
     
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    because PBF groupies tend to think that a loss on the record is the end of the line for a fighter. more critical thinkers can look beylnd this and see that a loss in no way prohibits future distinction.
     
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    De Leon-Penalosa II
     
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    Floyd-Cotto
    Shane-Margarito
    Pac-Marquez II
    Calzaghe-Hopkins
    Arce-Darchinyan (The Type of EXPLOSIVE Fight that would Bring ATTENTION to the Diaperweights)



    REED:cool:
     
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    It wasn't much of a loss anyway, it looked like a starving turantula frantically trying to spindle a wolverine in it's web, the wolverine inevitably broke free, but enough time had passed for the turantula to leap down the hole before he could be gobbled up.
     
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    :dunno: WHO??
     
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    Floyd vs. Cotto
    Mosley vs. Margarito
    Mayorga vs. Mosley/Margarito

    Guzman vs. Pacquiao
    Pavlik vs. Winky
     
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    Most of your list consists of Margarito I see, wise decision, wise decision :crafty: .
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    the bitch Margarito needs to prove himself after all....

    All that talk about being the most feared fighter in the world...most avoided...then goes on to lose to his SPARRING PARTNER..was quiet for a minute..but then won another of his usual fight (against a bum) and started talking again....

    I'm ready for everybody...blah..blah..let do it..blah..blah..:shit:
     
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    Yeah I'm tired of hearing all this shit about and from margarito! I want him to be a sudden FACTOR so that Floyd fights him and embarasses him.
     
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    Well gentleman, Golden Showers would piss on Carlos Scrubdomir from a fare ledge, yet it earned Fraud fighter of the year honours, it must be the money, I like to look at Fraud's cash enviously, he's rich :crafty: .
     
  24. Double L

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    i agree. if anyone got beat up it was Williams. and Williams did an awful lot of holding, and threw a lot of pitty-pats. The best you could say for Williams is that he out-worked Margarito, which I guess is a feat given Margarito's output. But I can't help but shake the bad feeling I have regarding Merchant's pre-fight interview with Margarito in which he suggested Margarito would have to throw fewer punches and pick them better. I just hope he wasn't stupid enough to take Merchant's advice to heart.
     
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    you mean like Lampley's insistence during the Toney-Ruiz fight that Ruiz came to him and Merchant for advice on how to be more entertaining? And that they were taking credit for Ruiz losing against Toney as a result? :lol:
     
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    How is Tarver NOT still relevant? The division is an old one, with very few young or emerging stars. Tarver is no worse than a top five fighter @ 175 and I'm STILL waiting for a realistic case why Chad Dawson is somehow "beyond" an Antonio Tarver.

    Who the hell is Chad Dawson and who's he ever beat?
     
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    I'm sure most of the board won't give a shit about these since they're 112 and under, but...

    If Hugo Cazares somehow beats Ivan Calderon their proposed rematch next year, I'd love to see a Cazares-Gio Segura showdown.

    I'd also like to see HBO and/or Showtime make an investment in showcasing Koki Kameda, perhaps setting up an alphabet unificaiton with Nonito Donaire.
     
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    Danny Green is beyond Tarver.:lol:
     
  29. Jake

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    Chad Dawson (born July 13, 1982 in Hartsville, South Carolina)is an American Boxer and the current WBC Lightheavyweight champion. Dawson was born to Wanda and Rick Dawson a former boxer He has 4 brothers and 2 sisters.When Chad was 7 years old, his father moved the family to New Haven, Connecticut.
     
  30. Jake

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    Beating Tomasz Adamek the way he did was far more impressive than anything else anyone's done at LHW lately.

    Maybe I exagerrated just a bit regarding Tarver. But Dawson and Shaw talk about a Tarver fight as if he's still THE man to beat at Light Heavyweight. That's what I meant. And as long as Tarver's taking the slow road back to wherever he thinks he's heading, I really have no interest in watching (and won't).

    Beating Tarver gives Dawson some name value, but he doesn't advance very far in the division.

    Speaking of LHW's and since it's you - whatever happened to Paul Briggs? Does he have anything going on in the immediate future?
     

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