Hatton at 140....who should he go for!?!?

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  1. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    the two biggest fights there at the moment are Witter and Mallignaggi

    i think it depends where his next fight will take place.....if it is in the UK, he could fill out a stadium fighting Witter.....in the States, MSG will sellout within minutes for a fight with Mallignaggi

    Ricardo Torres would offer a less dangerous comeback option, a reasonable fight but not going to see him soar back up the p4p charts...if Hatton is going to quit before he's 31 he'll surely only want the big fights
     
  2. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He needs to beat Witter, Unify all the belts at 140 then quit. Plain and simple. He did well enough against Floyd {you can bet Cortez won't be the ref next time} and he did well enough against Collazo {both of whom are better than Witter} and so I feel he can beat Witter quite comfortably.

    Simply put, at 140, anybody he is allowed to fight in Britain will lose to him.
     
  3. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    he deserve an easy fight...but before May next year..then fight and beat Junior Witter...then call up smaller guys like Juan Diaz....then retire...

    or maybe Pacquiao....
     
  4. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I think Hatton is finished as a top tier prize fighter unless he recoils to the comfort of Manchester and fights an array of bums.

    I'm not saying this to diminish what Ricky has done to date. I just think losing the much-hyped mega fight with Mayweather will takes its toll.
     
  5. whiskey

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    Mayweather would have defeated him regardless of weight but it's clear Hatton is no welterweight.

    He's been in two big fights this year. He should take a rest, and then a soft touch. Afterward go for another belt @ 140, be it Witter or anyone else by that time.
     
  6. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    i agree to an extent....but at 140 he is a lot more fearsome fighter

    it is a shame that 140 is weak, he hasn't got another elite fighter in there with him to prove himself at the very highest level
     
  7. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    nah...that only usually happens if the fighter doesn't have a strong/big fan base..they go from being the king of the hill to shit on the streets. BUT HATTON WILL have a tune up or two in Manchester infront of large crowds and get his mojo back....

    it's not like certain fighter who got KOTFO and had to go to idaho for his next fight...
     
  8. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Well, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I find it cool that he's got that amazing, yet misguided fan base. It's good for boxing.

    But personally I just think the undefeated record was a huge part of Ricky's confidence. I think he will struggle from this point forward with middle of the pack type competition. Few guys go undefeated as long as he did and then regain the same level after a KO loss.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    See i think the opposite...Mayweather undefeated record is what makes him...as soon as that is gone..he is done as a fighter..IMO. He talk soo much shit and think of himself as one of boxing all time greatest...but once that 0 is gone he will be done...similar to Jones..once he was KOTFO everything was gone..the confidence..the pride..etc...

    Hatton will be more aggressive now...and less fearful of getting beat IMO.....
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Agreed. PLUS like I said in a previous thread, Ricky has a young man's style. Suited for someone in thier early-to-mid 20's. Ricky's pushing 30. Once he loses his quickness, and workrate with age, he'll become a VERY beatable fighter.
     
  11. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Doesn't every fighter become beatable when he loses his quickness and workrate? :lol: :laughing:
     
  12. Orthodox Crusader

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    Yes.
     
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    Not if they have a counterpunching/boxer style and have skills to fall back on. Hatton doesnt have much skill, and all he knows how to do is come forward. He'll only become easier to hit with age, and the myth about him having a great chin was shattered last night.
     
  14. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He does have a great chin.

    He walked into the perfect left hook and got the fuck up.

    Gatti, of the indomitable spirit and jaw, was fucked up a lot easier.

    Ricky has a great chin, no question.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    but he got up..a bit wobble but he got up..so he still has a solid chin..and who said he had a GREAT chin...? Hanzy doesn't count...:nono:
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    argghh...i wrote too soon...:doh:
     
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    Great chin my ass! Its not a bad chin, its well above average. I'd say solid. But when I think of great chins I think Chavez, Toney, Hopkins, Mosley, or even DLH. Hatton's chin is solid, nothing more. Lets not forget Collazo had him on queer street in the 12th round.
     
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    word
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Concur.. Solid but certainly nothing special.
     
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    dsimon writes

    You can't compare Jones and Mayweather, they are different types of greats. Jones always relied on natural ability. Mayweather depends on skills and technical brilliance. Yes, when Jones was at his best he was impossible to beat, but when he lost some of his speed he became very beatable. Mayweather has a bigger bag of tricks to draw upon. He could be like James Toney, a guy who can fight competitively still cause of his skills. Mayweather does not depend on quickness and his athletic ability, even if it is there.
     
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    Gatti wasn't clinching. Take away the clinching and Money ices Vicky in 5 rounds tops.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    word...
     
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    If I managed Hatton, Id go for a massive double promotion in the UK with Both Hatton and Witter against relatively soft touches, setting up a Witter-Hatton fight for the title a few months later. It would be nice $$$ for all involved.

    If he wants to stay states-side, perhaps something similar can be done as a HBO doubleheader with Hatton v ? and Malignaggi v ? at MSG, then have them fight at the Garden.

    Either way, Hatton is good opportunities for nice fights at 140 which would equal nice paydays as well.

    Problem is, I have a gut feel Ricky will struggle with Witter and Paulie.
     
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    scrap that, just read Schaeffer isnt ruling out DLH v Hatton in May.

    Would not suprise me one bit if DLH fights Hatton, then announces Hatton as the Golden Boy UK or Europe chief then start signing UK talent left, right and centre.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    if the money is right....fuck it Hatton should go for it..and with DLH the money is always right...but Hatton should expect to get KO'ed again...
     
  27. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Take away Joe Cortez and Floyds constant elbowing and floyds constant holding and floyds constant getting favoured by Joe Cortez and we might have had us a different fight.
     
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    Your boy got elbowed because he was clinching. Fatton cheated so Floyd counter cheated then iced your boy with ease.
     
  29. mikE

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    It was particularly bad at the beginning of the fight when Cortez broke them up if they touched each other...right when Hatton had the energy to maybe do some work/damage.

    Anyway, short of megapayday...Hatton needs an easy fight against a non-puncher. Hell, fight Cherry. Sure as hell don't want Ricardo Torres on his bounceback fight...that's a prescription for another ko loss.
     
  30. boxingnotboxers

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    The holding certainly seemed like it was annoying Hatton the first 3 rounds, and that would seem like the time Cortez was GOING TO MAYWEATHER'S CORNER AND WARNING THEM.

    The rest of the fight...well, it's common sense really. How was Hatton catching Mayweather's elbows to his face?

    Let me rephrase the question in a more obvious manner...HOW WAS HATTON'S FACE EATING MAYWEATHER'S HIGH GUARD WITH HIS HEAD IF MAYWEATHER'S HANDS ARE HIGH, YET HATTON ISN'T LANDING PUNCHES?

    In other words, the tide turned as to who was holding...except Hatton STILL didn't benefit the way he usually does.
     

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