"Money" Mayweather vs Trinidad (prime) at 147lbs

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  1. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    Trinidad was a more accomplished Welterweight and one of the best of all time in that division. Probably the greatest offensive talent in that division's history.

    nevertheless this is actually a stylistic mismatch in Floyd's favour.

    Tito wins probably two rounds at most!

    Floyd by WIDE unanimous decision!
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Trinidad by Decision..or late ko..

    147 Trinidad threw punches to both head and body..and mixed it up pretty good..and he was a pretty fast and accurate.....he wasn't the left hook happy fighter he became later in his career..


    Mayweather hasn't done nothing to prove he can hang with Trinidad or any other past Welter in their primes..DLH..Whitaker..Quartey...Mosley.....


    Maybe in a few months/years after he has hopefully fought guys like Cotto, Williams, Margarito, etc..then we can make a clearer prediction....
     
  3. slystaff

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    He could beat superman and you'll still say that.

    ridiculous
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    No all he has to do is beat a few big, full-time prime welterweight...and my opinion might change.....

    but he has fought nobody at jr welter or welter to show that he can hang with a prime Trinidad....or quartey....or whitaker....or DLH..a prime DLH..not the 36 year old inactive dlh that was still able to win 5-6 rounds against Pretty Boy...

    ridiculous is saying Mayweather would KO Leonard,Hearns,Duran .. that Mayweather is ALL TIME top 5 fighter....or that he would beat all version of Chavez...
     
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    I never said Mayweather would KO Leonard, hearns or Duran and I pick Leonard and hearns over him at 147lbs (P4p would be a different story).

    But you have to consider styles here

    Trinidad always had poor footwork. Trinidad always had poor ring generalship. He'd be following Floyd around the ring and waiting patiently for Floyd to be stationary before he'd attempt to punch. Consider this carefully. If and when he does corner Floyd in those brief moments he'd scarely land his money punch, the left hook, as Floyd's defense nullifies left hooks.

    You can't hurt what you can't hit. Not saying that Mayweather is a much greater fighter than Trinidad, but head to head..no way Tito can win.

    Kinda like Tito vs Wright...Tito is a great overall fighter than Wright...but head to head he just can't beat him.

    Floyd would vitually shut Tito out in a performance that wouldn't look unlike his fight against Corrales...except it goes the distance and Trinidad gets dropped just once.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Tito at 147 would probably be the favorite due to his reach, size, and power. Tito was a top quality fighter at this weight who relied more on his height and reach, jab, combination puching, and body punching. He was a great fighter there before he the making weight problems became an issue.


    I think Floyd is a better fighter, period. And as such, he should be able to beat Tito. But the hand speed of Tito was deceptive back then, and he punched very straight, short, and compact, with maximum leverage and power.

    This would be a tough one. Floyd would have to be on his bike the whole night here. I definitely don't think he'll allow himself inside with Trinidad too much.

    Floyd boxes and moves en route to a competitive UD that has some dangerous moments.
     
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    Tito (Pime) vs Money Mayweather @147!

    Does Money Mayweather get flattened or does he try to pot shot his way to a victory?
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    you are late....

    http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22280


    I said Trinidad late ko/tko or Decision.....Mayweather has done a damn thing at Welterweight..against a big welter like Margarito, Williams or Cintron to prove he can deal with Trinidad or QUartey..or DLH..or Mosley..or anyone...
     
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    merged! :warning:
     
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    Money Mayweather dies! Trinidad would murder him.:clap:
     
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    Just like Hatton!! You know your shit!! :bears:
     
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    Of course I do. I'm 8 for 10 just for this year! :clap:
     
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    Funny thing is you would really pick him over superman ...
    You are biased to the max bro ..
     
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    Hatton will murda' Floyd!! :bears:
     
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    beating Baldomir and DLH doesn't prove Floyd can beat Tito :nono:
     
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    ... and not beating DLH, Winky and Hops proves Tito KO's Floyd easily? :dunno:
     
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    mayweather would meet the same fate as larry barnes!
     
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    I gotta be objective in this one and pick with my head and not heart. The Tito of the mid 90's beats Floyd by UD at 147. Hell maybe even a late TKO. He had the reach, jab, quickness, and accuracy to reach Floyd back then, much moreso than the weight drained Tito who fought DLH in 99.

    Lets not get carried away with the Hatton win now. Hatton isnt in the same league as a prime Trinidad. Not even CLOSE! And I've NEVER been a Tito fan.

    Not saying Floyd wouldnt give Tito trouble. He'd give him alot of trouble with his quickness and ring smarts, but down the stretch Tito would take command IMO.

    P4P its a no contest, Floyd is by far the better/greater fighter between the two. But at 147 I gotta go with Tito. Floyd's gonna have to do more than beat Hatton, Bumlomir, and a washed up DLH to convince me he could hang with a prime welter Tito.
     
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    Dude...this has nothing to do with hatton or whether or not Hatton is in Tito's league. This is about styles.

    tito was a GREAT offensive talent, but his footwork was always among the worst in the game. You know this. Also Tito is KNOWN for not punching until he's set. Given all of this.....How the hell is he going to hit floyd enough to win the fight?

    It's simply not possible!
     
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    I can respect this post!:bears:
     
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    Let's be real here!

    Everyone is talking about How Floyd hasn't fought anyone that's on the level of a prime Trinidad, well a Prime Trinidad never beat anyone as good as Floyd (Whitaker was a stationary, past-prime fighter....and I thought Oscar beat him).

    In fact talking of teh Oscar fight....that's exactly how Floyd would beat Tito...except Floyd moves better than Oscar, is more elusive and more importantly would keep that up for 12 rounds.

    So Floyd never beat a Welterweight as good as Tito and Tito never beat (without considerable controversy) a Welterweight as good as Floyd and so they're even in that regard.

    So then it boils down to styles...and only a FOOL would think that tito wins the stylistic matchup in this one! :kick:
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Not true early in his career....he started doing more of that at 154...at 147..he could punch on the move without having to set up a left hook....

    He used the jab more often at 147...the jab would set up the right..that would set up the hook...it wasn't until later that he was left hook happy......
     
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    Nice to see a Mayweather fan who can actually be objective. :clap:
     
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    :bears::bears::bears:
     
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    I agree with X as well.

    You'll find out it's pretty much Sly who think his 3 favorite fighters are unbeatable. :lol:
     
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    Floyd wins, comfortably. I love Tito but he'd get fucking peppered.
     
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    Oh, I know that about Sly...he's been endlessly shilling for his favorites for as long as I can remember. :lol:
     
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    It's not about whether they are my "favourites" it's about what i think of their abilities. Most people would choose Robinson over every other fighter...does that mean that Robinson is their favourite fighter or that they lack objectivity?

    Roy Jones, IMO would beat everyone. Floyd mayweather would lose to Hearns and Leonard at 147lbs...as I said before and possibly Robinson too.

    However I happen to think that Floyd is THAT good. I see no problem in that.
     
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    Wow. Idk about his footwork being amongst the worst in the game. Thats a bit harsh. I mean he never had the offensive footwork of a prime Tyson or anything, but your making it seem as if was Jeff Lacy or something. The young mid 90's Tito had decent footwork, and enough reach, accuracy, and handspeed to find Floyd. Only way Floyd beats Tito is if he moves NON-stop for 12 rounds, but IDK if he could that. Even a washed up Oscar was able to back Floyd into the ropes quite often, I could definitely see a prime Tito doing the same. And when Tito hits Floyd, it would do more damage to him than any other opponent he's ever faced.
     
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    True, but he wouldn't hit Floyd often enough for it to matter.
     

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