What if Mosley/PBF have happened? Who would have won?

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    We all know this fight goes 12 rounds. But what would have been the outcome if Mosley had fought PBF @147? Can Mosley have found a way to penetrate PBF defense?
     
  2. CleanYourClock

    CleanYourClock "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It's hard to say these days ... I'll tell ya though , after a fight like that Vs Cotto , at this age Mosely isn't even going to be that good anymore ..
    Not only is he old , brawls like that make you even older.

    You will find out though because PBF will fight this older shot version of Mosely , then retire for good ... Just like I called it.
    Fight the lesser of 3 evils in Hatton , let the Cotto fight take up more time , then let the Cotto fight break Mosely down , then fight a shop worn old man Mosely.
     
  3. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I would pick PBF by clear decision in a so-so fight.

    Mosley would be open down the middle for straight rights and left jabs and then have that frustrated, discouraged look between rounds. Floyd would be cautious and box his way to the end.
     
  4. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I agree. Miguel Cotto was boxing Mosley and was having pretty good results so I cant imagine why PBF couldnt do it as well. Its a shame. Can you imagine a PRIME SHANE vs PBF? That would have been GREAT!
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Floyd would have schooled him.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    I am trying to imagine prime Mosley against prime Cotto. In this imagination I am seeing a lot of pain for Cotto. :cool:
     
  7. CleanYourClock

    CleanYourClock "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Schooled ? Don't you think thats a bit extreme ?
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Mayweather by decision. It would follow the same pattern as most of Floyd's fights; Close after the first 5-6, then Mayweather figures out something about his opponent and pulls away.

    Mayweather UD 116-112, 116-112, 115-113
     
  9. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Someone gets KTFO and the winner would not be a winner anyway. The beating in this fight could have ended both careers.
     
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    CleanYourClock "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I would pick the Mosely from the "first fight with Oscar" over any current Welter weight.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Floyd beats Mosley at any time in both guys career. Mosley would eat far to many lead right hands. No, saying Mayweather would school Mosley is not extreme.
     
  12. CleanYourClock

    CleanYourClock "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    IMO the Mosely that fought Oscar in the first fight would hurt Floyd and either win a wide UD or stop him late ...
    Also that version of Mosely would stop Hatton at 147 about as fast as Hatton just stopped Castillo at 140.
     
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  13. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I don't know. PBF defense is very hard to break through. I will agree that a prime Shane beats PBF on points.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Floyd don't fight like a stalking zombie as Oscar did. Mosley gets outboxed by the better, more fluid boxer who has more skills. it's very easy to envision.
     
  15. slystaff

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    Floyd without question.

    Mosley is and has always been Floyd-Lite.

    Shane's only chance would be to break a rib with a well placed body punch...other than that he gets outboxed on the outside and countered to death if he tries to bully Floyd on the ropes.

    Shane will win some rounds early...because that's when he's at his best, but after 4 rounds or so it'll be all Floyd as Shane will become one dimensional and have a healthy appetite for jabs...
     
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    That version of Shane has always been overrated. Floyd is just a better fighter than Shane ver was. period.
     
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    holler WBC Champion

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    I'm a HUGE Mosley fan, but IMO he would lose a close but clear UD against Floyd.

    Mosley is tough as hell, but defense is crap. He would be an absolute sucker for those lead right hands. Floyd would most likely potshot the hell out of Shane.
     
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    Props for being unbiased.
     
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    Agreed. I rewatched the Oscar fight and really came away realizing that it took an adjustment from Mosley and Oscar tiring for Shane to win that fight. Also the fact that Oscar was fighting stupidly by throwing caution to the wind and just stalking forward.

    The Shane that fought that Oscar is the same one who fought Vernon the 1st time.
     
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    Glad you recognize! :cool:
     
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    been saying it forever.. floyd, and it would look easy.
     
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    The Cotto fight was a sign that Shane is done,:eek:ld: this need to be in MM for Shane to have a chance against Money.
     
  24. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Last time I checked he did pretty damn good against the ultamate pressure fighter.:nono:
     
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    yeah because Cotto could not inflict career ending damage to a shot Mosley but against a prime Mosley it would have been a different story... :dunno:
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    Mosley has always been a very talented, a very consistant, and exciting performer. And though I hesitate to say it I have to.... Floyd outclasses Mosley boxing wise. Different class of fighter.

    I hesitate because Mosley is a classy guy in his sportsmanship.... I happen to think Floyd isn't a bad sportsman himself, so I don't mind saying Floyd is the goods, I just don't like to use the word outclass.

    As Sly and a few others said, it has to do with dimensions, Shane was a one dimensional terror! speed and power are always part of his game and he can also be a very accurate puncher. Frankly i think the Cotto perfprmance deserves an encore, it was one of his best. He hung in there and hit Cotto with a few punches that had radar! :lol:

    But Floyd and his corner are special. Watching Floyd and Roger is like watching a Mongol warrior ride a horse that he has sat on since being an infant. People can rib the Mayweathers but when you see Floyd in action, when you see how his corner responds to different developments, you are seeing the craft of boxing at its best, which one seldom sees these days. Roger is not the halfwit people would like to believe he is. His quips are funny, but he gives real instructions to Floyd. And Floyd, unlike the majority of Freddie "come on son" Roach's guys, listens to Roger.
     
  27. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This shit dosent add up. PBF won a very close disputed dec against a fading Delahoya, but yet many say he outclasses Mosley? A fighter that has proved to be better than Delahoya?:doh: If anything Mosley proved to have more in the tank thus far than Delahoya.
     
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    I actually thought Mosley fought well against Cotto. Mosley did better than I thought.

    He's not what he once was, but that's been the case for awhile. No shame in all in winning 5 of 12 rounds against a very good, undefeated titlist in Cotto.
     
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    :lol: I can't believe "fight fans" still come up with this juvenile analysis.

    Boxing isn't as simple as that.

    Ali STRUGGLED three times with Ken Norton. George Foreman WIPED OUT Ken Norton, Ali knocked out George Foreman.
     
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    Your guess is as good as anybody else's. Nobody knows what happens between Shane and Floyd but I do know that it would be Floyd doing the running and fighting cautiously. But regardless, if we use the Floyd/DLH fight to give us an idea of PBF's ability against a world class fighter(despite DLH being shot), then it's not silly for somebody to think that Mosley would give Floyd his most difficult fight he's ever had in his entire career.Use your brain Slystaff. You're smarter than you're letting on.
     

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