Thoughts About the Pavilk-Taylor Rematch Being @ 166

I don't really understand the reasoning behind Taylor's camp having it @ 166. I know that the rematch clause was to be at 166, which provided a possible excuse of "I was weight-drained" (which I've never heard Taylor use), but for what reason?

Pavlik is no small middleweight himself, and doesn't exactly have the easiest time making 160 either. Fighting @ 166 doesn't seem to benefit Taylor.

Is it to get Taylor used to the weight gain, for he plans to campaign at SMW from now on?

 

The rematch clause was made before the fight. You assume Taylor figured if he lost, it would be because he was weight-drained. If he says he'd rather have it at 160, he implies that weight wasn't a factor.

So, he takes the fight at 166 where he can still use the weight as a physical and mental factor (perhaps/probably legit) and he gets to make another really big payday.

Of course, they can probably make this for The Ring 166 lb belt.

 

The higher weight will help Pavlik more than it will help Taylor.

 

I don't know. Pavlik is a murderous puncher at middleweight, i don't see how the extra weight will be an advantage to him. I'm not saying he'll have less power, but i think his foot and handspeed, which are already average, might get even worse.

Taylor on the other hand, who clearly struggles with the weight, can perhaps come in fresher and box better, as well as bring more power. With an extra 6 pounds if he puts Pavlik down again maybe he won't get up next time.

If i was Pavlik i'd want this fight at 160. Why change things when it went so well last time.

 

will this be a 10 round fight?

 

dsimon writes:

But Mike Erratic's point has legs when one considers the comparative advantage/disadvantage to both guys. Frankly Taylor depends great deal on being able to beat up smaller guys and it aint happenin against Pavlik.

 

dsimon writes:

Taylor doesn't box well, or at least he hasn't. Even Stewart could not get him to use a jab consistently. Taylor's footwork also is lacking. I don't see the basis for Taylor's decision. If he tries to cut the ring down against Pavlik it would be a first.

 

Pavlik does not make 160 any easier than Taylor. Look at the size of the guy! I don't think it's going to help either guy more than the other fighting at 166. I do think both guys will feel better come fight night not having to cut that extra 6 pounds. Both are big middleweights.

 

How do you figure?

Not saying that you're wrong, but what exactly is your reasoning.

Pavlik may be taller than Taylor and may even have wider shoulders...but Taylor is thicker in the chest and so may be more comfortable at a higher weight relative to Pavlik.

Either way I don't think the weight is to anyone's advanatge. Whatever happens in this fight would have happened in a rematch at 160lbs.

 

I wasn't disagreeing. It makes more sense to mE to have the belts on the line, if possible. I just was throwing out a possible justification for still leaving it at 166.

 

weight will help pavlik if anything.

taylor will fight scared and stink it out this time around. regardless, pavlik knocks him out again or wins a wide decision.

 

They can fight at any weight they want. However I'd be saddened to see the Middleweight Belt on the line if this were to happen.

 

It won't be.

Which is why there must be some reason Taylor and his camp would want it at the higher weight.

It will be interesting to see what kind of weight Pavlik puts on to make the move...Taylor will be stronger at 166.

 

I dont care if they had to both come in at 266 or 66lbs.. Pavlik will beat him every time

 

Yep..you have to make Pavlik the favourite going into this rematch, but I'm not sure who I'm going to pick yet. I have a feeling Taylor gets his revenge by way of decision....

 

The weight doesn't matter...Pavlik will win again and possibly even more quickly than last time.

 

If it goes to a decision, Taylor will win. I have no doubt there will be bullshit scoring if it goes to the cards.

 

Jermain aint no fraud.

 

Taylor is just not that good..

I will say Pavlik is maybe the only guys (aside from floyd) right now that I wouldn't pick anyone to beat

 

Calzaghe would beat Pavlik, no question.

 

Calzaghe would beat Floyd too :dunno:

 

Yeah but Calzaghe vs Floyd isn't in the equation due to size disparity. Pavlik vs Calzaghe is a possible matchup.

 

Yeah but I think LOK meant that from the same weight class nobody beats Pavlik. Floyd against middleweights isn't out of the question, but the best ones of them would beat him up.

 

I was really looking forwward to the first matchup but have no interest in the rematch. I'm pretty confident Pavlik will win it, but what does that prove? It's not like anyone is claiming the first fight was a fluke. It just seems like a waste of time when better fights could have been made.

 

Pavlik is buying time to avoid Abraham

 

Pavlik beats Joe C IMO.. and he's prolly the only one I'd pick over Joe C

I love Pavlik.. he knows how to adjust.. I think he is a very good fighter.

Pavlik vs Floyd is nonsense.. to me Floyd should not go above 147 at all..

 

That was the fight i was hoping for.

 

Me too, I think that is the one that should be made.

Abraham might also want that bout to avoid Asikainen

 

I just don't see how....unless Pavlik is an even more devastating puncher than he currently looks.

Joe is so much more mobile, faster, smarter than Pavlik. Just like the Kessler fight, I just can't see Pavlik beating Joe.