Calzaghe and Hopkins 'agree 50-50 split'

Oscars chances were always remote by anyone who actually knew who Hopkins was and that ODLH looked like garbage in his only MW fight. As for the judge who had ODLH ahead, he should never be allowed to judge again. Hopkins was clearly ahead. I had it 6-2. You could give ODLH 3 rounds if being generous I guess. In the end ODLH never really did shit at 160. He was unimpressive before the Hopkins fight and after the Hopkins fight never fought there again. Hopkins has several wins that I consider more impressive than his win over ODLH.

 

Three rounds was all he was going to win on his scorecard (and really, why is Lederman being used to support the scoring of a fight?).

The only thing really different between the lead ups to Hopkins-DLH and Mayweather-Judah was that somehow DLH managed to emerge from his supposed tune-up with a victory.

 

The De La Hoya- Hopkins fight was one of the easiest to predict in history.

I wish we could dig up the threads on thsi one. I said from the moment it was signed that it could only go one way: Bernard by TKO in the mid to late rounds. I would have bet my house on that one. It's a stylistic mismatch given the size difference.

I agree hopkins was clearly ahead by the time of the stoppage. It was man vs boy!

 

Pre-KD, I thought Hatton was winning the 10th.

 

Crap zaga will be KTFO before his career is over!! and on that day I'll raise my glass and toast to his exposure

 

I thought we were talking about Hopkins-DLH?

 

My bad.

Regarding dlh/hop...momentum shifts, unexpected things happen in boxing...

to act like Oscar had zero chance is presumptious and ridiculous considering how judges judge. He wan't dead on his feet or anything prior to the kd.

 

It won't even be close. Calzaghe will beat Hopkins like a purple antelope

 

I dont know about that Slicer

I think Bernard might beat Joe C like a red headed wolf hound

 

Calzaghes punches = A swarm of bees

Hopkins face = A picnic

 

Hopkins is elusive. He wont be there to hit like Lacy, or even Kessler.

 

Either one could beat Floyd Jr like a pussy boy fake thug bitch!

 

Says who

 

:laughing:

A Prime Hopkins would have given Joe his toughest ever night, but THIS version of Hopkins against THIS version of Calzaghe is a mismatch IMO.

Only Hopkins spoling like he never spoiled before gives him a chance.

 

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Just about everyone Hopkins has fought. ::

 

Like Jermaine Taylor? ::

 

Yes, including Jermain Taylor who landed about 19% of his punches in 2 fights with Hopkins..

Terrible reply.

 

Two fights Taylor won though, so he must have not quite been elusive enough...:dunno:

Besides, Hopkins isn't particularly 'elusive', per se. He is a tough SOB, who is an exemplary spoiler and can dictate the terms and pace of a fight by holding, clinching, using arms and especially his head etc. Not saying he shouldn't do these things; as Ricky Hatton said last week- 'It isn't a tickling contest'- but this is how Hopkins fights against elite fighters.

I wouldn't say that these make him 'elusive'?

 

Well, my definition of elusive, as it pertains to boxing, is "not getting hit".

In that regard, as I said, the majority of Hopkins opponents have found him elusive.

I am not debating the means by which he is elusive. I am simply pointing out that he is difficult to land a high percentage of punches against. That point is not speculation or conjecture, it is fact proven over a lengthy career and many fights.

 

IMO, 'elusive' infers the skilled and speedy evasion of an opponent.

Hopkins does not fight like this- often he seeks out his opponents and ties them up or 'roughs' them up to discourage them from throwing shots.

No doubt at all that he is effective in doing this, but I couldn't describe his method as being 'elusive'; such as PBF, Hamed, Herol Graham sort of guys. Those guys were/are rarely in front of their opponent, whereas Bernard is often right in his opponents space and causing havok.

We have different definitions of 'elusive', Trpl... :tease:

BTW- was your claim that JT landed 'about 19% of his punches' in two fights against BH 'proven fact' or 'speculation or conjecture'? Moreoever, at elite level, is this a particularly low percentage anyway? :dunno:

MTF

 

Calzaghe will beat the shit out of Hopkirk.

 

Hopkins will make him look like a Welsh dishwasher with no teeth

 

No. Hopkins will lose and lose badly.

 

I don't think any fighter in the world dominates Hopkins. You guys are delusional.

 

Precisely. It's impossible to dominate Hopkins. Calzaghe should win...but it'll be a 7-5 type of deal.

 

If it goes 12, I don't think Hopkins will win more than 2 or 3 rounds. He might not get dominated, but he's not going to be winning rounds.

 

this will turn out to be a dull fight. hopkins will make calzaghe miss, but won't fire anything in return to win rounds.

 

And the last time Calzaghe "missed" with punches was just when?? He is extremely conservative and accurate.