Calzaghe and Hopkins 'agree 50-50 split'

This is probably true. I find it an intruiging clash of styles, & agree that nobody out there today can dominate Hopkins, but Calzaghe should win on work-rate.

 

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I would agree with this, but anyone who thinks 42 year old Hopkins has any chance against a prime Calzaghe is being very, very optimistic.

The only real hope is that Joe does not react well to the increase in weight, ala Hatton, otherwise he loses by WIDE decision at least

 

Hopkins is certainly much slower than he was...but he's so damned smart that it's impossible for anyone to dominate him.

It'll be a very ugly and intidy fight...nno one can dominate him in such a fight.

 

See how "smart" he is when he's fighting someone who is every bit as dirty as he is and who is every bit as cute. Joe is one of the smartest dirtiest hardest cutest fuckers ever. And he has a better gas tank too.

 

Hopkins will STOP Joe C if the fight comes off but I don't think this fight ever happens.

 

I dunno about that. Hopkins doesn't exactly have the best KO record in the world.

 

I'm not sure. Hopkins a few years back wins no problem. Now. I can see it being long and uneventful.

 

dsimon writes:

Yeah Jermaine won those fights allright just like he won the 12th round of that first fight. :doh: Hopkins has superb inside fighting skills ( alost art) and is a great body puncher. He tends to make the opponent have to adjust to what he is doing as well. It is stupid to think that boing is all about work rate.... if that were the case why not save our fighters mental health and have them each go to their respective corner each round and try to throw as many punches they can in three minutes.

People should wake up and realise that Williams, Calzighe etc are affected in their punch count by what the other guy can do.

 

dsimon writes:

Just like hatton did Floyd. Maybe in Hibernian logic?

 

if this fight happens (which I dont think it will)

Hopkins will most likely make Joe C retire..

I could see Joe C calling it quits after getting totally dominated like a two bit hoe..

then I see him annoucing his retirement, blaming the domination on that he was sick or some BS..

But.. I think he will still lead a good life, prolly open up some greasy spoon in Germany and bus tables and serve bottled Welsh water to tourists and make some pretty good tips

 

The only reason Joe would retire after fighting Hopkins is because he felt bad about killing someone in the ring.

 

dsimon writes:

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Mike, you are my boy and all.. but come on..

are you saying that Hopkins is not going to dominate him like a two bit hoe?

 

Hopkins hardly is capable of laying a real beating on anybody. He doesn't even fight in a way where he tries to hurt you, he just tries to do boring ugly sh*t and win rounds and keep his title. He throws a right hand while ducking down and then grabs his opponent and tries to drive em backward into the ropes until the ref breaks them up. Does that crap for 12 rounds.:: His fights against Eastman, DLH, Wright, Hakkar, Taylor, etc were the most boring pieces of crap. But despite that, he gets the job done for the most part. I guess that's what's most important.:dunno:
It's like fighting Chris Byrd. At the end you wonder "What the f*ck was that crap?!?!" :doh:

 

I hear you Hanzy. but guys like Hopkins and Byrd.. .they are really good!! just ugly..

Crapslappy is more flashy but he'd be in with a real old pro and Hopkins would sodomize him.

imo it's a moot point cuz this fight is not happening

 

This is about the only sensible part of this post

 

This is a perfect summation, and Hopkins does this very, very well, but he has fought NO-ONE who fights like Calzaghe, who will be in and out of range before old man Hopkins has had a chance to grab/clinch/headbutt...

 

I really doubt that at this point in time ...
IMO Hopkins bit off more then he can chew this time ....

 

"Boxing according to LOK"

1. Calzaghe is a European
2. Hopkins is a black American
3. As a result of 1, Calzaghe is a 'Eurobum'
4. As a result of 2 and 3, Calzaghe gets 'sodomised'

Apply to any and all fights involving European fighters. opcorn:

 

I don't know about THAT. 67% KO percentage ain't the worst out there. Basically means that there's a better than not chance that you're going to sleep or getting stopped w/in the distance.

 

Something you didn't know. LOK is actually half german.:laughing:

 

Not recently.

 

And Mosely "didn't do enough" yet PBF raped Delahoya with the largest schooling and slaughter anyone has ever witnessed a fighter have over another fighter.

 

Not recently. OK. Knocked Tarver down. Beat Wright up. Had JT on queer street in their first outing. I know I know. no stoppages there, butwhen was the last time Tarver tasted canvas or came close? Can't say the Jones fight. When has Wright ever bean beat up like that without dishing out at least equal punishment? Never. Say whatever you want about "not recently", but it don't mean shit.

 

Basically means that there's a better than not chance that you're going to sleep or getting stopped w/in the distance.

Like I said, not recently.

 

The original post SPECIFICALLY referenced the KO ratio, by default, AS A WHOLE. Only after you were made to look ignorant, did you turtle up, and rephrase your statement to save face. Who the fuck has Joe Calzaghe stopped...RECENTLY? Gimme a break. Mitchell? Yeah, nice stoppage. Only stoppage I've seen where the guy that got stopped was doing the punching at the time of the stoppage. Anyone wonder why Joe prefers his backyard?

 

JT on queer street?
Tarver went down? Not exactly.
Wright beat up? Nope.

What don't mean shit is you thinking a guy who doesn't knock out people is going to knock out a guy who doesn't get knocked out. Byron Mitchell hit him with a murderous shot and Calz recovered quickly. Only luck would let Hopkins do more.

 

Charles Brewer had Calslappy doing the Humpty Dance in the 7th round of their fight, and Mitchell had him floored good in their fight.

Mitchell? Yeah, nice stoppage, Joe. Only stoppage I've seen where the guy that got stopped (Mitchell) was doing the punching at the time of the stoppage. Anyone wonder why Joe prefers his backyard?

And F*CKSTICK, I never said SH!T about Hopkins knocking Joe Calzaghe out. All I took exception to is the fact that you said it was not likely based on Hopkins KO ratio, which I pointed out to you is beter than 2/3's, which means 66% of his wins, the MAJORITY, were by stoppage.

Appreciate your effort.